By next year, 100% foreign.
Domestic will be just for limited "drops".
Drops are how knife makers do it for sanity.
Taking cue orders from domestic market is way too stressful.
Foreign orders are so much simpler. And much more lucrative.
Did the cue market fall apart?
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Domestic will be just for limited "drops".
Drops are how knife makers do it for sanity.
Taking cue orders from domestic market is way too stressful.
Foreign orders are so much simpler. And much more lucrative.
SW cues will never take a hit unless Taiwan , Europe and China collapse.
Plane ebony SW can fetch $20-40K in China.
The majority of the cues for sale are from resellers who up charge 1000-2000 more than the cue is worth hoping someone bites and artifically inflating the market. Therefore they are going to sit around until a buyer sees their perfect cue.
Reselling is fine, but the mark ups are crazy. I had the opportunity to buy a cue directly from the maker for 2400, but ended up passing (which I partially regret now). Saw it for sale a few days later for 1500 more.
Reselling is fine, but the mark ups are crazy. I had the opportunity to buy a cue directly from the maker for 2400, but ended up passing (which I partially regret now). Saw it for sale a few days later for 1500 more.
Benelli
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Of major global economies, China is probably in the worst shape and most likely to suffer a major collapse in the next year.
They have a confluence of problems worst of which is a housing market on the verge of collapse that the majority of Chinese have their life savings tied up in.
Europe and Taiwan are no worse off than we are, but Taiwan does have a pretty significant dependence on China for their semiconductor industry that could cause them some heartburn if China takes a dive. But with a large amount of Chinese production being duplicated in Vietnam, you could see the loss from China made up by other countries quickly.
I guess the good news here is China shits the bed we can all get SW cues...
Benelli
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good luck.
I have a couple of cue makers who I call friends and yes dealing with US customers sucks. The biggest issue is majority of US customers are just filthy flippers and never have any intention of even playing with the cue.
Much like Gustav mentions in his post their just buying to mark up and resell so they punish the cue maker for every single little thing they can in an effort to get the price of the cue down to increase their own ill-gotten gains on the flip.
I understand you not wanting to deal with those assholes...
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Pretty much exactly what I was thinking as well. In todays global economy if a major player goes down we will all feel the pain.
I love the durability of CF. I dinged a few wood shafts in the past. That alone will keep me with CF, never wood again.
I like this point, it is a good one. I’ve been playing for 15 years now and I have spent 100 percent of my pool time (besides making a product) practicing and improving “me” as a player. Never have I entertained the idea that the cue was to blame for my performance. I suppose it might have been the trend back in the day to get the latest fashionable cue to fix your game. That never crossed my mind.
Pool artist
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Can't tell predator cues just raise prices.pure x cues are 300 at beat new job case's still 300 plus for a decent one . everything pool related is overpriced and overated I never bought anything cues got it passed down. To me except my 1 st edition falcon cue it out play any cue on the market Ernie Chen put his heart into making cues my falcon cue the 1 st edition prototype cue I was told I have
Benelli
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You must be a car salesman...
When I originally purchased my cue, I gave the cue maker Andy Gilbert my design specs and proposed budget. He asked if I was a dealer or planned on reselling -- I said nope, and this commission would be my playing cue until I could no longer play. We had many pleasant discussions over the next few months to finalize the details. When the cue arrived, I was blown away. This was in 2005.
Fast Forward to present day -- A few months ago, I visited another dealer site and found a few similarly loaded 8-point Gilberts that were listed at 3x my cue's original cost. I do not know what drove the asking prices to where they are now, but I could not possibly hope to get my cue today with that kind of price inflation.
Fast Forward to present day -- A few months ago, I visited another dealer site and found a few similarly loaded 8-point Gilberts that were listed at 3x my cue's original cost. I do not know what drove the asking prices to where they are now, but I could not possibly hope to get my cue today with that kind of price inflation.
Pool artist
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You say then why is predator cues the high end going up when the market on jf carbon cues going up people want the jflowers carbon cues they much fancier and half the price of predator cues.in a test they outperformed predator jflowers cues and konollien taking over facts.hope predator wakes up and sees the fall.
Pool artist
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Now you sitting on a cue no one wants facts they want cuetec carbon and jflowers cues
The cue is a personalized one-of-a-kind, fully custom with scrimmed inlays, no CNC, and an awesome hit -- why would I even think about selling it considering it is irreplaceable? My state also has a moratorium on any ivory sales, so this puppy is not leaving my possession anytime soon. The only reason I would research its current market value is for insurance purposes.
I do still follow the traditional custom cue market, but mass production cues like jflowers just doesn't carry the same appeal to an old timer like myself. I haven't made the switch to CF shafts yet, but I'm guessing it's just a matter of time before I purchase a Revo.
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Zerksies
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Lots of broke ass and cheap ass people out their that can't or won't pay predator prices. Not all shafts are made euqially. Pool is about feel that 1% you are talking about could perform like shit to a real player.
Quick update,
The Cue Market is back boys!!!! Disregard this post I posted a cue last night and it sold in less than 20mins....I will take all the credit for brining it back by making this post. You are all welcome and if you send thanks to my inbox I prefer small unmarked bills.
Thanks
The Cue Market is back boys!!!! Disregard this post I posted a cue last night and it sold in less than 20mins....I will take all the credit for brining it back by making this post. You are all welcome and if you send thanks to my inbox I prefer small unmarked bills.
Thanks
you priced it too low.....
Benelli
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Probably a buyer in Gaza...