Turning Stone Racking

A friend played in this tournament …made it about 5 rounds. He was talking to a certain unnamed pro player who just lost to the 80 year old gentlemen who cashed . He said to my friend I thought I was racking him better than that. My friend said I don’t do that I just rack them tight. This player said out right if you don’t learn to rack someone in this format you can’t win. This player is one of the nicer guys on tour lol not someone who you would think do this but if everyone is doing it then I guess everyone has to do it
 
krelldog said:
The goal of racking the balls is to achieve what the magic rack does every time.

It makes no sense that anyone would reject using the magic rack.

I'll never understand the argument of not using it.

If you want to make 9 ball harder...play pushout.
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You can't like a wired ball every time you break or they break.
 
nicksaint26 said:
Not wired but very makeable in the side. However getting shape on the next ball is random unlike the 1 on the spot. The 1 goes up table and dresses up nicely that way.
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Exactly, and I think Matchroom has settled on a reasonable if not perfect solution for the break at nine ball. The "forceful" part is a little sketchy and maybe they will fix that. That was the rule that Barry Behrman used towards the end of his US Opens.
 
iusedtoberich said:
I'm saying when they don't freeze you can sometimes improve it by feathering. Sure, you can also make it worse, on purpose. That depends on the person.

With a magic rack in my experience it's mandatory to feather all the balls until they touch. With a triangle, usually if they don't touch inside the rack, its difficult to improve when the rack is removed.
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In the final at TS, Fedor was feathering the 1-ball quite often. IMO, it is very difficult to geta "Perfect" rack from a wood rack. Even if you do; you might get roll-off upon lifting the rack.
PRO's mainly care about 2 spots in the 9-ball rack.
1-- a gap behind the 1 ball and,
2-- the 2 balls behind the 9-ball has no gap.

I thought in the final that Shaw had the rack just a smidge tilted left. Perhaps it was camera angle, BUT it could explain why Fedor was making his right wingball on virtually every break.
Commentators even said about it in the booth how he was making the right wingball on every break.

BTW: Mike Zuglan puts A LOT of time into TS twice /year. He has been doing so for over 20years. He fades jump cues and the magic rack in an effort to keep pool traditional, AND deserves RESPECT for doing so.
okay: RANT over! 😶
 
trob said:
A friend played in this tournament …made it about 5 rounds. He was talking to a certain unnamed pro player who just lost to the 80 year old gentlemen who cashed . He said to my friend I thought I was racking him better than that. My friend said I don’t do that I just rack them tight. This player said out right if you don’t learn to rack someone in this format you can’t win. This player is one of the nicer guys on tour lol not someone who you would think do this but if everyone is doing it then I guess everyone has to do it
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Thorsten Hohman? He's the only pro I remember losing to an old man with glasses and a hat, I believe his name was Ron. Pretty gangster of him to beat Thorsten if he was indeed getting slug-racked by "one of the nicer guys on the tour".
 
Kris_b1104 said:
Thorsten Hohman? He's the only pro I remember losing to an old man with glasses and a hat, I believe his name was Ron. Pretty gangster of him to beat Thorsten if he was indeed getting slug-racked by "one of the nicer guys on the tour".
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Not going to say I’ll just say he gets to play at a lot of pro tour events because he can afford to travel and this person is one of the few that will actually talk to you.

That old man played great if you didnt get to see it. hill. Hill and he ran out on a tough lay out like it was nothing.
 
Kris_b1104 said:
Thorsten Hohman? He's the only pro I remember losing to an old man with glasses and a hat, I believe his name was Ron. Pretty gangster of him to beat Thorsten if he was indeed getting slug-racked by "one of the nicer guys on the tour".
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Yes, Hohmann lost to Ron Casanzio. The 80-year old (apparently) player who cashed was Earl Herring; he did not beat any pros.
 
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