OK this is ask the cuemaker ... so ...

I would really like to know what the true wholesale cost of some of these high-end tips are. By the time the cuemaker gets his tips it has already passed through the middlemen. I wish the tip manufacturers would allow you to buy direct from them based on volume. Too many people trying to make a profit off a single tip. By the time the end user has purchased the tip it no longer reflects the true cost of manufacturing.
It is the true cost of the tip to manufacture it. If it costs the same to make as all other layered tips then you are paying for a NAME not performance.
 
Wholesale prices on tips is probably much higher than you think, margins in tips can be lower than cues and shafts. Also remember that many brands have minimum quantities you need to order, so stocking up on a brand can quickly be a few grand. Generally I buy all my tips straight from the maker, so no middleman. Selling cue tips is not a get rich scheme..
I consider it the lowest of the low profit I make from building cues. I only put on tips because no one else does it competently around here.
 
I would really like to know what the true wholesale cost of some of these high-end tips are. By the time the cuemaker gets his tips it has already passed through the middlemen. I wish the tip manufacturers would allow you to buy direct from them based on volume. Too many people trying to make a profit off a single tip. By the time the end user has purchased the tip it no longer reflects the true cost of manufacturing.
Just like a zillion other consumer goods right?
 
I consider it the lowest of the low profit I make from building cues. I only put on tips because no one else does it competently around here.
I do very little tip work although I should as an amateur, but noticed guys that can do just as much with a 50 cent le'pro tip as do with a $20 layered tip.

By the way I just noticed there's no CENT symbol on the new phone keyboard. Wow loose change doesn't mean a thing anymore 🤔🙄
 
I do very little tip work although I should as an amateur, but noticed guys that can do just as much with a 50 cent le'pro tip as do with a $20 layered tip.

By the way I just noticed there's no CENT symbol on the new phone keyboard. Wow loose change doesn't mean a thing anymore 🤔🙄
There is no ¢ anymore ? Nobody told me !

Dave

PS on a Windows device hold the Alt key down and then type 0162 and a ¢ sign will appear
PPS I have no idea how to do that on a phone, I am too old for that chit
 
I do very little tip work although I should as an amateur, but noticed guys that can do just as much with a 50 cent le'pro tip as do with a $20 layered tip.

By the way I just noticed there's no CENT symbol on the new phone keyboard. Wow loose change doesn't mean a thing anymore 🤔🙄

¢

Long press the Dollar Sign, it will offer other currency characters, including the one I posted above
 
Tip are made of organic material, pig, cow or waterbuffalo. If you think that H, M or S labeling means a much you are smoking Crack.

I have aalways had a durometer and I check every tip when the come in my shop then write the durometer number gh on the back with a pencil.

I find many softs in the hard catagory and many hards in the soft group. Most are closer to med. So much that I only order S and H because there is a ton of Ms in the S and H. If you dont have a duometer you have no clue what hardness tip is going on.

I owned a 11000 sq ft Billiards Cafe & Bar and had 600 league players. During that 10 year period I did over 6000 tips. That being said I have a pretty good feel for the different brands and how they cut with a very sharp razor.

So my answer to the OPs question is:

In my Opinion, the ultra Skin cuts more consistant as it ribbons better than Kamui Clears. So I like installing them better buy preference.

The fact remains any tip's feel from a hardness point of view can only be quantified by Shore D test on a durometer. Period! Giving an subjective opinion without verifying with an instrument is just wolfing or plain BS. Buy a durometer and see for yourself.

The general pool public thinks they will play better if they pay more money. It's a feel good thing from a branding perspective.

The most consistant tip hands down is the Triangle. It is the med tip that is still the king of the hill as it is Chrome Tanned Only a few tips per box are out of the med range.
 
Tips seem to be very "trendy". For a while, I couldn't keep enough Caiden Fighters in stock, then the Kamui Black Clears became all the rage. Nowadays, I install Zan Hybrid Max on 90%+ of the 50-60 tips I do a month and have a whole inventory of Kamui, Caiden, Ultraskin, and others that I barely touch anymore. The Caiden Warrior looked like it might be in the running for the newest fad, but feedback after a month of playing with them has been poor. I've ended up cutting most of them off and installing something else.

I know one thing for sure: a few months from now, we'll be talking about yet another new fad. Who knows.
 
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