It is the true cost of the tip to manufacture it. If it costs the same to make as all other layered tips then you are paying for a NAME not performance.
OK this is ask the cuemaker ... so ...
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Coos Cues
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I tried one on my own player and found it to be unbearably hard. I don't like a tip I have to fiddle fart around with for it to hold chalk.Pick up some "Duds" on here and be done with it.
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I consider it the lowest of the low profit I make from building cues. I only put on tips because no one else does it competently around here.
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Just like a zillion other consumer goods right?
Hard Knock Cues
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I do very little tip work although I should as an amateur, but noticed guys that can do just as much with a 50 cent le'pro tip as do with a $20 layered tip.
By the way I just noticed there's no CENT symbol on the new phone keyboard. Wow loose change doesn't mean a thing anymore
There is no ¢ anymore ? Nobody told me !I do very little tip work although I should as an amateur, but noticed guys that can do just as much with a 50 cent le'pro tip as do with a $20 layered tip.
By the way I just noticed there's no CENT symbol on the new phone keyboard. Wow loose change doesn't mean a thing anymore
Dave
PS on a Windows device hold the Alt key down and then type 0162 and a ¢ sign will appear
PPS I have no idea how to do that on a phone, I am too old for that chit
snookered_again
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Yes, that makes perfect 0162's -JOn my (android) phone, the cent symbol is on the second screen of punctuation marks... Not that that has anything to do with cue making, since we all charge $ instead of ¢.
I do very little tip work although I should as an amateur, but noticed guys that can do just as much with a 50 cent le'pro tip as do with a $20 layered tip.
By the way I just noticed there's no CENT symbol on the new phone keyboard. Wow loose change doesn't mean a thing anymore
¢
Long press the Dollar Sign, it will offer other currency characters, including the one I posted above
Hard Knock Cues
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Okay thanks y'all. I guess I'm not too old to learn new tricks. Back to cue making 
Tip are made of organic material, pig, cow or waterbuffalo. If you think that H, M or S labeling means a much you are smoking Crack.
I have aalways had a durometer and I check every tip when the come in my shop then write the durometer number gh on the back with a pencil.
I find many softs in the hard catagory and many hards in the soft group. Most are closer to med. So much that I only order S and H because there is a ton of Ms in the S and H. If you dont have a duometer you have no clue what hardness tip is going on.
I owned a 11000 sq ft Billiards Cafe & Bar and had 600 league players. During that 10 year period I did over 6000 tips. That being said I have a pretty good feel for the different brands and how they cut with a very sharp razor.
So my answer to the OPs question is:
In my Opinion, the ultra Skin cuts more consistant as it ribbons better than Kamui Clears. So I like installing them better buy preference.
The fact remains any tip's feel from a hardness point of view can only be quantified by Shore D test on a durometer. Period! Giving an subjective opinion without verifying with an instrument is just wolfing or plain BS. Buy a durometer and see for yourself.
The general pool public thinks they will play better if they pay more money. It's a feel good thing from a branding perspective.
The most consistant tip hands down is the Triangle. It is the med tip that is still the king of the hill as it is Chrome Tanned Only a few tips per box are out of the med range.
I have aalways had a durometer and I check every tip when the come in my shop then write the durometer number gh on the back with a pencil.
I find many softs in the hard catagory and many hards in the soft group. Most are closer to med. So much that I only order S and H because there is a ton of Ms in the S and H. If you dont have a duometer you have no clue what hardness tip is going on.
I owned a 11000 sq ft Billiards Cafe & Bar and had 600 league players. During that 10 year period I did over 6000 tips. That being said I have a pretty good feel for the different brands and how they cut with a very sharp razor.
So my answer to the OPs question is:
In my Opinion, the ultra Skin cuts more consistant as it ribbons better than Kamui Clears. So I like installing them better buy preference.
The fact remains any tip's feel from a hardness point of view can only be quantified by Shore D test on a durometer. Period! Giving an subjective opinion without verifying with an instrument is just wolfing or plain BS. Buy a durometer and see for yourself.
The general pool public thinks they will play better if they pay more money. It's a feel good thing from a branding perspective.
The most consistant tip hands down is the Triangle. It is the med tip that is still the king of the hill as it is Chrome Tanned Only a few tips per box are out of the med range.
Tips seem to be very "trendy". For a while, I couldn't keep enough Caiden Fighters in stock, then the Kamui Black Clears became all the rage. Nowadays, I install Zan Hybrid Max on 90%+ of the 50-60 tips I do a month and have a whole inventory of Kamui, Caiden, Ultraskin, and others that I barely touch anymore. The Caiden Warrior looked like it might be in the running for the newest fad, but feedback after a month of playing with them has been poor. I've ended up cutting most of them off and installing something else.
I know one thing for sure: a few months from now, we'll be talking about yet another new fad. Who knows.
I know one thing for sure: a few months from now, we'll be talking about yet another new fad. Who knows.
What you are seeing are unrealistic expectations..
Sure it goes in waves, but I have customers that have their favourite tip or brand and I have new customers coming by all the time wanting to try out something new. I try to give as accurate description of the tip/brand in question and we go from there. People expecting the new tip to feel like the crusty lepro they have had on for the last ten years or thinking that a certain tip will revolutionize their game, i just tend to smile at, and point out it doesn't work like that. I have had zero complaints in regards to Caiden, they are consistent from tip to tip, they hold chalk well and they glue well.