Who to build Shafts for a Scruggs

I recently acquired a Bob Frey full splice Hoppe ring cue- some call a fancy SP. Flat face 3/8 10 pin - I will say the cue hits very well. About the same as my former TS fancy SP - Frey probably made that one too.

Firm , crisp hitting but not clunky like some cheaper SPs. Seems to me that the wood selected for the shafts had much to do with the hit. So, I would pay attention to the wood selection as much as the actual shaft specs.

When you tap the shaft against a pool ball there is a distinct ringing sound unlike a sort of thud that you hear from a house cue for example.
 
I think Leon burned a few to many bridges or I think we would see more of his new cues for sale. Bob F is retired. Not sure who Brian is and I’m looking to sell the butt once I acquire shafts and Phillippi, I’m sure is great, but I don’t see them increasing the desirability.
 
Shooter08 said:
I think Leon burned a few to many bridges or I think we would see more of his new cues for sale. Bob F is retired. Not sure who Brian is and I’m looking to sell the butt once I acquire shafts and Phillippi, I’m sure is great, but I don’t see them increasing the desirability.
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Leon purchased some of Tim's equipment. I personally had a PH true Sneaky built by Sly to Scruggs dimensions. I could not tell a bit of difference between the Sly and my other 7 various Scruggs Sneakys.
Cory Barnhart would probably be my first choice. Brian.
 
a1712 said:
Leon purchased some of Tim's equipment. I personally had a PH true Sneaky built by Sly to Scruggs dimensions. I could not tell a bit of difference between the Sly and my other 7 various Scruggs Sneakys.
Cory Barnhart would probably be my first choice. Brian.
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I don’t question Leon’s ability. I also never have had a problem w Harris, but I can’t buy anything built by Sly. Harris I would, had a couple of his cues and for the money, they were great. Larry Nevel purchased one, pink and light blue veneers, for his girl friend/wife at the time. The other was a flame point that was shipped over seas, I wish i still had that one. I really liked it a lot.
 
Shooter08 said:
Anybody have any recommendations on who they would have build a couple shafts for a Scruggs sneaky as close to as what Bob would of originally built? Thx, Shooter08
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I have 3 original Scruggs Shafts I may be willing to part with one. The specs are as follows: 13.03 mm 3.6 oz weight, 12.03 mm 3.5 oz and 12.01 mm 3.4 oz. Let me know if you have any interest.
I think you commented on my post with my scruggs.
 
Billiardking512 said:
I have 3 original Scruggs Shafts I may be willing to part with one. The specs are as follows: 13.03 mm 3.6 oz weight, 12.03 mm 3.5 oz and 12.01 mm 3.4 oz. Let me know if you have any interest.
I think you commented on my post with my scruggs.
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I appreciate the offer. Unfortunately, I’m looking for a collarless wood to wood. Thanks again though. Shooter08
 
Shooter08 said:
Bob Frey, he built all of them for years along with alot of other Scruggs cues. Extremely underrated cue builder, who deserves way more attention than he has ever received because he never needed it, he was happy his best friend was happy and getting the accolades. Great guy, had him refinish a TS he built and build some new shafts years ago and he was as nice as they come. Bob is retired now, I hope he gets his "flowers" as the kids today, say. Shooter08
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I'll second this: Bob refinished and rewrapped my Scruggs shortly before he retired. The cue looks brand new, could not have asked for a better job.
 
Shooter08 said:
He is pretty booked, I got a quote on time frame via third party for a playing shaft w matching ring work for my J/B I have for sale and it was gonna be a while w no real guaranteed time frame. Would hate to delay someone getting their custom build done.
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That's true. He is backed up. I waited a year on a four month fix.
My fault tho. Told him to take his time. Lol. I thot you being you and all, he might run you to the head of the class on something of this nature. Could be wrong. It's good of you to consider your client like you are. Most don't care. It comes when it comes. Lol.
Kudos Shooter!!👍🏻
 
Mensabum said:
That's true. He is backed up. I waited a year on a four month fix.
My fault tho. Told him to take his time. Lol. I thot you being you and all, he might run you to the head of the class on something of this nature. Could be wrong. It's good of you to consider your client like you are. Most don't care. It comes when it comes. Lol.
Kudos Shooter!!👍🏻
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I am a nobody, lol. Just like cues and helping people. I don't have any information that cannot be learned by anyone else who wants to treat builders with respect and takes the time to shut up and listen to their elders and people more educated about the subject matter. Shooter08
 
Shooter08 said:
I am a nobody, lol. Just like cues and helping people. I don't have any information that cannot be learned by anyone else who wants to treat builders with respect and takes the time to shut up and listen to their elders and people more educated about the subject matter. Shooter08
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You'd be surprised to find that isn't the case w most people. Or might not. Lol Becoming more of a rare quality as time goes on. Common courtesy and respect ain't so common no mo.
 
Shooter08 said:
Anybody have any recommendations on who they would have build a couple shafts for a Scruggs sneaky as close to as what Bob would of originally built? Thx, Shooter08
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One guy who I would certainly consider, if this were my Scruggs, would be Troy Downey of Mueller cues. Troy Downey , IMO, is one of the best cue repairmen in the country. I have had him do work for me for years and years, always over the top!
You would have to talk with any cue guy first, before handing over the TS cue butt, you would want to convey exactly how you want the shafts constructed, that probably means finding cue guys who are familiar with TS or FREY shaft specs ( weights, diameters, tapers, ferrules, tips, etc.)
Guys like Troy ( Mueller Cue Repair) or Proficient - have seen many TS cues over the years- so they may be most familiar.
 
Lots of good recommendations. I think the seller wants to let someone else decide. It is in the for sale section if anyone is interested. Also have a Vigus Dufferin ebony butterfly 60 inch conversion that needs a shaft, owned by the same person, the original shaft is out of round and I don't have any connections to Vigus to get another built and am sure he has plenty on his plate. Thx, Shooter08
 
Shooter08 said:
....snip..... I’m looking to sell the butt once I acquire shafts ....snip....
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You have a butt w/out shafts, and you want to buy shafts and sell complete? That seems a big headache to me. I'd sell as-is, and let the new owner source shafts. I'd go so far to say that I think you'd lose money on the deal.

IMO:)
 
iusedtoberich said:
You have a butt w/out shafts, and you want to buy shafts and sell complete? That seems a big headache to me. I'd sell as-is, and let the new owner source shafts. I'd go so far to say that I think you'd lose money on the deal.

IMO:)
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People are just not motivated to get custom shafts built and a LD aftermarket shaft just doesn't seem like justice to this cue. If I had a Scruggs original wood to wood matching shaft, this thing would of been gone long ago.
 
Cory would def have the specs.
Shooter08 said:
People are just not motivated to get custom shafts built and a LD aftermarket shaft just doesn't seem like justice to this cue. If I had a Scruggs original wood to wood matching shaft, this thing would of been gone long ago.
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