JB Ultímate Rugged case: a testimonial

To my surprise, as I was looking at an old cue stick one of the old timers used to have and it was all beat up on the butt end. Almost as bad as the one in the photo. What the guys used to do as they sat around the table when somebody else shot, when he potted a ball on a good shot they used to bang the butt and of their cue on the table legs, which made quite a racket when several people did it, as it was a gesture of approval. I guess that was the style or trend at the time, but the cue sticks were all beat up because of it. I don't know if people do that nowadays, but I can't understand what would prompt people to do this to their sticks, but they did.

I would venture to say that people who "tap" their cue to acknowledge a shot are familiar with the process and are not chipping their cues, I do that and I have no recollection of hitting it so hard it chipped. I've been playing since the mid-80's and my cue(s) has the same chips, it's from accidentally hitting the table next to me, or something similar. In the case of that broken butt I posted above, I assure you, he was not tapping his stick, he missed a shot and slammed it into the ground (that's a whole other story), I was probably there when it happened. The butt on my Huebler is cracked, it happened in the early 2000's at an away bar that had tile floor where the tables were and carpet where we were sitting. I had/have a habit of flipping my wrist up (lifting the cue) then letting it slide through my hand and letting it bounce then catching it on the up-bounce and I just happen to do it on the tile. The instant it hit that tile everyone heard it and gasped - we all knew it cracked, believe me, it was NOT intentional and 20 years later I vividly remember the moment it happened, I can even remember the sound.

Most of my cues have dings in the butts but I don't worry about them because they are players and I play in bars with very little space between tables and shit happens. Although I play with old cues because I like old wood, the side benefit is - they aren't perfect. Early on I would get pissed and it would affect my game so, eventually, I learned to completely ignore it. If I tap a table next to me I don't think twice about it. When I get back to my seat I will run my fingers over it to see if anything happened, but I don't sweat it because they are players. I owned a very nice Dzuricky cue a few years ago and all I worried about was hitting the table next to me, etc. and it would affect my game sometimes, especially in tight quarters. That was when I realized I wasn't a cue collector, I have no desire to have high end cues sitting around I am worried about playing with.
 
Just loosen the interior a bit and we have a winner. It can rattle in the case because his interior is padded.

This could be a whole other thread but, I always put my cues in butt first and bumper down, then put the shafts in with tip down. However, I have a JB 3x6 and it's full with 3 butts and 6 shafts. Main player with 1 shaft, secondary player with one shaft (Huebler above) break cue with one shaft, 2 jump shafts (jump butts are in the jump butt pocket (Ironically, that's where my sleeve is at, keeps them from banging against each other!) and one spare Huebler shaft from a different cue just in case) so when I pull a cue out it's tight unless I pull multiple shafts out first. Point being, if the shafts were put in first with tip up then the butts with bumper up, this would considerably reduce the resistance of getting them in or out. Not going to happen because it would be hard to get the cues out, but it's an option.
 
Just loosen the interior a bit and we have a winner. It can rattle in the case because his interior is padded.

But that would negate the reasoning behind the interior. If you've done your research you'll know that JB had an expensive cue (around $10K if I remember correctly) fall out of his case while sitting on a bar table one night and that's what made him go down this road. I remember reading a post/watching a video of him testing it with another very expensive cue (possibly up to $20K?) by putting it in his case and then turning it upside down and shaking it and the cue didn't fall out. If it's loosened up that expensive cue hits the ground the and defeats the purpose. Although I have me worries, there are remedies and any changes to the case would be a negative.
 
I had the same worry, especially since I don't just take the cue out once and then put it away at the end of the night. I use my case whenever possible to hold the cues to avoid someone knocking them over. Chili, I am wondering if the logo was just printed on top of the finish, so it wore off easier. idk just guessing.

I purchased my cue four years ago and have been using my case like this the entire time. Three days a week league, and at least three more days of just playing or tournaments. My cues are going in and out of the case every time I switch break and player, in between games, go to the bathroom, etc.

The last two pictures below are both Pechauers, but one of the cues has been my player and was in and out of the case countless times and the other has never been used. Other than a couple small marks that are obviously my carelessness while using. I cannot find any wear on the butt or marks running up and down the cue that you would expect if the interior was scratching it.

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The one on the left is the used one.


I strongly encourage you to NOT keep your cues in the case like that during a match. What happens if it gets knocked over? Best case scenario is there is nothing in the way and it falls flat - maybe it hits something and dings the shaft, worst case scenario it smacks into a chair and breaks the cue. If the cue is not in the case and falls over the best case scenario is nothing happens or maybe it dings the shaft but, the worst case scenario is it smacks the floor and dings a shaft or knock the tip off (ask me how I know). If you play in places where there are lots of people and very little room I recommend not doing that. At a pool hall with plenty of space, not an issue; at most league venues though, that's probably not a good idea. Remember, things are going great - until they're not ;)
 
Just loosen the interior a bit and we have a winner. It can rattle in the case because his interior is padded.
That’s what I hated about the justis case is listening to my cue sticks rattle around while I was walking. Not that they were being damaged from it ..just more of an annoyance. My mason case is tight because they are so small so you have to put your cues in it in a certain way. Especially since I use one of the shaft slots for my jump cue butt but I can also turn my case upside down and shake the hell out of it even if I just have 1 cue in it and they don’t move lol
 
This could be a whole other thread but, I always put my cues in butt first and bumper down, then put the shafts in with tip down. However, I have a JB 3x6 and it's full with 3 butts and 6 shafts. Main player with 1 shaft, secondary player with one shaft (Huebler above) break cue with one shaft, 2 jump shafts (jump butts are in the jump butt pocket (Ironically, that's where my sleeve is at, keeps them from banging against each other!) and one spare Huebler shaft from a different cue just in case) so when I pull a cue out it's tight unless I pull multiple shafts out first. Point being, if the shafts were put in first with tip up then the butts with bumper up, this would considerably reduce the resistance of getting them in or out. Not going to happen because it would be hard to get the cues out, but it's an option.
I like joints up. Again, they are not too tight. Snug enough to not just fall in, but once in nothing moves around.
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I strongly encourage you to NOT keep your cues in the case like that during a match. What happens if it gets knocked over? Best case scenario is there is nothing in the way and it falls flat - maybe it hits something and dings the shaft, worst case scenario it smacks into a chair and breaks the cue. If the cue is not in the case and falls over the best case scenario is nothing happens or maybe it dings the shaft but, the worst case scenario is it smacks the floor and dings a shaft or knock the tip off (ask me how I know). If you play in places where there are lots of people and very little room I recommend not doing that. At a pool hall with plenty of space, not an issue; at most league venues though, that's probably not a good idea. Remember, things are going great - until they're not ;)

I appreciate where you are coming from, but I find this way safer than just leaning somewhere. The only time I've had cues knocked around or down has been in a cue rest. I saw a guy fall and take out the whole rack of cues once. Bent, dented and one cracked.

The case is attached and hanging from the chair so it can't be knocked down unless the whole chair goes over. If it is that crowded there isn't any room for the chair to fall over anyway. If I am concerned the cues are too exposed, I spin the chair around so that the case is between the bar/table and chair. If it is super bad, I can just unscrew the shaft and drop it back in the case until needed again.
 
Look I'm not a huge JB fan (we buried the hatchet long ago) but if you think this is hard on finish than using your cue a couple of hours you are very mistaken. No data but just common sense. What about a loose fitting case? The cues will rattle around and rub against the sides vs one abrasion of removing cue. In short you are overthinking this.

Do you moisturize your hands before playing? I'm sure rough hands would do the same.
Holy sh$t....this is horrible! Now I'm afraid that the act of playing pool will increase friction on my hands and using them in this fashion will cause them to wear down to nubs! Great opportunity to market a new pool glove...one lined with moisturizer like the antagonist from Steinbeck's Of Mice and Men....could call it The Curley....are you listening Predator? All I ask is for a modest royalty on product sales.
 
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Holy sh$t....this is horrible! Now I'm afraid that the act of playing pool will increase friction on my hands and using them in this fashion will cause them to wear down to nubs! Great opportunity to market a new pool glove...one lined with moisturizer like the antagonist from Steinbeck's Of Mice and Men....could call it The Curley....are you listening Predator? All I ask is for a modest royalty on product sales.
The best laid schemes o Mice and Men
Gan aft agley

To A Mouse by Robert Burns

Steinbeck was a big fan
 
What about a loose fitting case? The cues will rattle around and rub against the sides vs one abrasion of removing cue.
I got to believe this is a very valid point. You would do more rubbing on the cue with a loose fitting slot over a snug one. JB cases are built like battle axes and I appreciate that.
 
I got to believe this is a very valid point. You would do more rubbing on the cue with a loose fitting slot over a snug one. JB cases are built like battle axes and I appreciate that.

The only time I ever heard them rattle in Giuseppe case was when I was walking. Like the other poster, drove me nuts.
 
Holy sh$t....this is horrible! Now I'm afraid that the act of playing pool will increase friction on my hands and using them in this fashion will cause them to wear down to nubs! Great opportunity to market a new pool glove...one lined with moisturizer like the antagonist from Steinbeck's Of Mice and Men....could call it The Curley....are you listening Predator? All I ask is for a modest royalty on product sales.
Why the hell did the voiceover in my head reading this sound like the voice from most 1950s commercials?
 
I got to believe this is a very valid point. You would do more rubbing on the cue with a loose fitting slot over a snug one. JB cases are built like battle axes and I appreciate that.
I have the JB mason case and they are very compact so it’s tight but nothing moves which I like. That’s a jump cue in the bottom 2 holes
 

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I have the JB mason case and they are very compact so it’s tight but nothing moves which I like. That’s a jump cue in the bottom 2 holes
I really like the look of those Mason cases. Very tempted but my damn Rugged case just keeps on going.
 
I really like the look of those Mason cases. Very tempted but my damn Rugged case just keeps on going.
They are super lite to. I packed it in my checked bag to play in nationals and the bag fully loaded was less then 5 pounds.
 
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