BRIDGE LENGTH Effects and Considerations

Then I don't understand the difference for the open bridge between power draw and power follow shots. Don't they both have the same problem of the stick coming up from an open bridge if the back hand has a problem?

Maximum top-spin follow::
When the tip makes contact with CB the tip is deflected upwards. The upward trajectory has a point of articulation.

When the bridge is closed the articulation point is the bridge.
When the bridge is open the articulation point is the hand.

The bridge is 5-10" away,
The hand is 40"-odd away.
 
Maximum top-spin follow::
When the tip makes contact with CB the tip is deflected upwards. The upward trajectory has a point of articulation.

When the bridge is closed the articulation point is the bridge.
When the bridge is open the articulation point is the hand.

The bridge is 5-10" away,
The hand is 40"-odd away.
The hand is too soft to have an effect during tip-ball contact. In order for the bridge to have an effect, it has to change where the tip lands on the ball. After the 1-2 milliseconds of contact, I think the motion of the stick is irrelevant since the ball is gone.
 
Speaking of short, THIS is short bridging by the master: Ultra-unique style but he rarely dogged-it for the $$ in his prime.
He never dogs it when playing a no pressure hack like me. His one pocket game is still off the charts strong. And to think, he does most all of it with a closed bridge and always has. Allen has other interests in his life now that take more time away from pool. But the game and eyes are still there.
 
Click on my screenname. It will give you a choice to Ignore. Click that. You will then be able to eliminate my posts forever.
If you don't, it could show Ignorance on your part and that wouldn't be too smart, would it?
If ignore worked like that, made people as if they didn't exist then it would be worth it.

But alas you still see the drivel when some other asshat quotes it and the fact that the drivel exists in the first place so it's not worth the bother.
 
When I first started playing (late 70s) almost everyone used a closed bridge. I remeber having debates about open vs closed, but closed was way more common. It wasn't until I started seeing smooker players some to the US that I started seeing more open bridges. I guess the snooker players were so accurate using an open bridge, people started copying them.
This may or may not be relevant but 50 years ago it was more common for cues to compensate for being too light with a lot of butt weights making them forward light. This makes it harder to hold the tip down with an open bridge on a power shot thus the closed bridge preference. Cues have also progressed in this time.
 
If ignore worked like that, made people as if they didn't exist then it would be worth it.

But alas you still see the drivel when some other asshat quotes it and the fact that the drivel exists in the first place so it's not worth the bother.
That's true but it doesn't always get quoted. Then they remain out of sight. Every once in a while, you can block someone you think is a dork idiot but come to realize you have more in common with them pool wise as well as style and start really getting into what they do post and look forward to it. I have. The key to not seeing someone blocked is to be signed in. Otherwise, everyone comes through.
 
This may or may not be relevant but 50 years ago it was more common for cues to compensate for being too light with a lot of butt weights making them forward light. This makes it harder to hold the tip down with an open bridge on a power shot thus the closed bridge preference. Cues have also progressed in this time.
Wouldn't that still kinda hold true with the ultralight carbon fiber shafts of today?
 
That's true but it doesn't always get quoted. Then they remain out of sight. Every once in a while, you can block someone you think is a dork idiot but come to realize you have more in common with them pool wise as well as style and start really getting into what they do post and look forward to it. I have. The key to not seeing someone blocked is to be signed in. Otherwise, everyone comes through.
This is why I have put the NPR here on ignore and taken my political leanings to a dedicated political forum. Pool is a strange bed fellow and should be a separate thing IMO.

On an unrelated note, Dave you are an impressive man in your daily endeavors. Hard to reconcile with your pool related persona, at least for me.
 
This is why I have put the NPR here on ignore and taken my political leanings to a dedicated political forum. Pool is a strange bed fellow and should be a separate thing IMO.
Great decision. I've done likewise but taken it one step further with no forums. Just a group of my friends all bitching about the same things in unison and no discord.
On an unrelated note, Dave you are an impressive man in your daily endeavors
Thank you. I appreciate the thought and comment.
. Hard to reconcile with your pool related persona, at least for me.
LOL! Stay here as long as I have and eventually it might catch up to you, but more than likely not. I have a strong loyalty to my closest friends who are excellent instructors, players, and creators of a method to pocket pool balls with extremely high accuracy called CTE. The three letters by itself makes blood pressure rise and brains ready to explode for those who fall for the
negative crap about it.

From day 1 it was attacked and maligned back in the mid to late 90's by someone who still remains on pool forums today doing exactly the same thing with a group of followers. Why? Does it even make the slightest bit of sense?

What I do in my "real life" is think way outside the box to create, invent ways to make life more normal and easier for those
less fortunate and don't have the physical ability to do what we find natural and take for granted.

When I was first exposed to CTE by Hal Houle, this "outside the box" way of aligning two balls to make one go straight into a pocket over and over was right up my alley. No math, no geometry, no trig, no contact points, no imagination, no guesswork...just straight forward simple visuals between two balls and a pocket using the center and edge of the CB. Seriously, how complicated is that?

So, you tell me? You're making pool cues. Let's say you discovered a way or method of doing something in the construction
process of the butt or shaft that's quite unique and KNOW it to be beneficial to the feel or playability of the cue. You share your secret with some others, and they start telling you that it can't be done, shouldn't be done, you're a friggin' fu***** idiot...
how might you react?
(thanks for giving me the opportunity to vent and tell it like it is) Maybe someone will jump on it to start another flame war or ban.
 
Great decision. I've done likewise but taken it one step further with no forums. Just a group of my friends all bitching about the same things in unison and no discord.

Thank you. I appreciate the thought and comment.

LOL! Stay here as long as I have and eventually it might catch up to you, but more than likely not. I have a strong loyalty to my closest friends who are excellent instructors, players, and creators of a method to pocket pool balls with extremely high accuracy called CTE. The three letters by itself makes blood pressure rise and brains ready to explode for those who fall for the
negative crap about it.

From day 1 it was attacked and maligned back in the mid to late 90's by someone who still remains on pool forums today doing exactly the same thing with a group of followers. Why? Does it even make the slightest bit of sense?

What I do in my "real life" is think way outside the box to create, invent ways to make life more normal and easier for those
less fortunate and don't have the physical ability to do what we find natural and take for granted.

When I was first exposed to CTE by Hal Houle, this "outside the box" way of aligning two balls to make one go straight into a pocket over and over was right up my alley. No math, no geometry, no trig, no contact points, no imagination, no guesswork...just straight forward simple visuals between two balls and a pocket using the center and edge of the CB. Seriously, how complicated is that?

So, you tell me? You're making pool cues. Let's say you discovered a way or method of doing something in the construction
process of the butt or shaft that's quite unique and KNOW it to be beneficial to the feel or playability of the cue. You share your secret with some others, and they start telling you that it can't be done, shouldn't be done, you're a friggin' fu***** idiot...
how might you react?
(thanks for giving me the opportunity to vent and tell it like it is) Maybe someone will jump on it to start another flame war or ban.
And yet another thread devolves into a decades-old argument about hurt butts and CTE.

Sigh.
 
And yet another thread devolves into a decades-old argument about hurt butts and CTE.

Sigh.
Yo...Coos Cues...
here's a classic example of someone that shouldn't even read what he considers to be a post of no interest and my reply to you.
But as long at those 3 letters of the alphabet are there...TILT, go off the deep end and attack!

Cancel culture and self-appointed moderator at its finest. Who next?
 
So, you tell me? You're making pool cues. Let's say you discovered a way or method of doing something in the construction
process of the butt or shaft that's quite unique and KNOW it to be beneficial to the feel or playability of the cue. You share your secret with some others, and they start telling you that it can't be done, shouldn't be done, you're a friggin' fu***** idiot...
how might you react?
This is quite common in cue building. I have experimented with a lot of different stuff because I can afford to and like to. Some of the ideas are total bust and others IMO are better than "the way it's done". There is a group here on this forum of good ol' boys many of which have moved on who don't like new things and have no bones letting you know how stupid you are. Threading is the CTE of cue building.
 
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