What differences are there between Mezz AirDrive2 jump cue and the newer AirDrive3?

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There are few used carbon-fiber jump cues Mezz AirDrive2 and AirDrive3 for sale.
What is different between the AirDrive2 and the new $650 AirDrive3?



For example, here is a used AirDrive2 for sale:
 
There are few used carbon-fiber jump cues Mezz AirDrive2 and AirDrive3 for sale.
What is different between the AirDrive2 and the new $650 AirDrive3?



For example, here is a used AirDrive2 for sale:
ask them??
 
Air drive 3 is a true 3-piece jump cue as opposed to the AD2 that was initially designed to be a 2-piece with an extension piece released later on.

I haven’t personally used the AD3 yet but if this post is some sort of research as to which model to buy, I’d get the 3. I’m a big mezz guy and I thought the AD2 was terrible. Which would make sense as a lot of the mezz pros were using other jump cues in lieu of the AD2.
 
if this post is some sort of research as to which model to buy
That is exactly what this post is about. Does it make sense to buy a used AD2 at half the price of AD3? Given your reply, it appears the AD3 is significantly better than the AD2 and the AD3 was made to replace a poorer AD2. Even with the AD2 at half price, it appears, the AD3 is a better deal.
 
That is exactly what this post is about. Does it make sense to buy a used AD2 at half the price of AD3? Given your reply, it appears the AD3 is significantly better than the AD2 and the AD3 was made to replace a poorer AD2. Even with the AD2 at half price, it appears, the AD3 is a better deal.
Maybe you get what you pay for? Maybe it doesn't work out that way either.
 
what difference really is there between something that says predator on it and a cheap sneaky pete cue with a hard tip on it.

these expensive break cues seriously seem like a waste of cash
 
these expensive break cues seriously seem like a waste of cash
These are jump cues---not break cues. Sales people realize many players jump poorly, know it, and want to jump good. The solution?

Tell buyers their new product makes you jump good, or failing that, jump better than you had jumped. Granted, that shouldn't make the cost of a rarely used jump cue $600, but there it is......

The argument seems fair ---- the carbon-fiber cues allow more force to be applied to the cue ball than the wood cue. Is that enough to make the poor jumper a good jumper? Some reliable player testimories are, "Wow! This is better". Others comment that jumping is too easy and should be banned. . . . . . . Maybe that is enough reason to splurge and spend $600 or maybe half that for a used one
 
They are very different. The AD2 was stiff and incredibly dead feeling. As mentioned it was also really a two piece cue (yes you could buy the extension later..) The AD3 is designed from the grund up as a 3 piece cue and it's got a much better feel. The tip that comes stock has way too much curve, so it needs to be flattened to a quarter shape to get the most out of the cue. If you don't like the original tip, Kamui SAI Hard or Horo White Storm works really well.
 
They limit supply so people think it must be better. Since it is hard to find it must be because they are selling out. Better get one soon or else. Fear factor added. Then they price it high to convince buyers it has got to be better.

After all it’s expensive and hard to find.

Then folks on forums ask questions and presto chango you have an inflated price on a scarce product…

Sort of reminds me of Beanie Babies, which are worthless now.

Marketing is wonderful!
 
I don’t think so, your reply is mostly BS, I’m going with what Kim Bye said. An informed opinion, from a knowledgeable poster. I’m not buying one, but the redesign has resulted in a superior product.
 
I can't see paying $650 for a cue that you're gonna use maybe 3 or 4 times during a match.

But then, I'm an old, retired guy on a fixed income.
 
Just about all the big brands have a carbon fibre jump cue out now. I have tested and worked on them all, except for Fedor Ghorst's new model from Triple 60. I should get the first batch of this cue in stock at the end of the month, then I can do a A/B comparison. From the pictures I've seen the Triple 60 model looks very similar to Mezz AD3, but at about $100 less. Personally I'm a straight pool kinda guy, so I never use a jump cue and as @Maniac is saying these new jump cues are very expensive, so it's for the people who are very fond of jumping or just have to have the best or newest equipment.
 
I can't see paying $650 for a cue that you're gonna use maybe 3 or 4 times during a match.

But then, I'm an old, retired guy on a fixed income.
Speaking as a big proponent of jumping in the game. I wholeheartedly agree with you.

I lusted over the Cuetec Propel for literal years since it's release, but I could never justify pulling >$600 out of my wallet. Even though that disposable cash did run through my hands on occasion. Always something more sensible to spend that kind of money on for regular folks.

I did finally end up winning one via a raffle. Not my first one mind you. Raffle that is... Probably have ~$100 invested in winning one. No guarantee of course, but yanking a $20 bill out from time to time, is a much easier pill to swallow. Some I know bash the notion of raffles as money making schemes. Which on some levels isn't wrong. However it does enable those with budget on mind an opportunity to get their hands on something out of their price range.
 
I did finally end up winning one via a raffle.
How did the Cuetec Propel compare with jump cues you had used in the past?

See also post that compares Cuetec Propel to Predator Air Rush at

 
what difference really is there between something that says predator on it and a cheap sneaky pete cue with a hard tip on it.

these expensive break cues seriously seem like a waste of cash
So, now that I have spoken about how sensible I was about forking out large dough for a jumper. I will admit that I did make the conscious decision to pay North of 1k for my Mezz CF breaker.

I think when it comes to high dollar equipment purchases. We need to keep in mind the user and diminishing returns vs competitive edge.

In the case of a jumper...: I could jump better with the custom stick given to me by my cue guy, then the jump/break falcon I had used for years. It was an improvement, and in retrospect I had $0 invested in a jumper. However just like my J/P falcon. I was limited to given range, (only so far and not too close). The Propel would open up possibilities for me, but was not really something I was missing. I'm a fairly decent kicker as well.

Now my break was always subpar compared to those in the competitive circles I run in. After countless years I just could not nail down the timing to produce a hard break with accuracy. With the advent of CF breakers and the supposed claims of improved power. I decided to look into it myself. I heavily demo'd the Predator, Cuetec, and Jacoby options. I found that they did indeed provide better power transfer into the CB. Now not to any great amount imo, but it was there none the less. What it allowed me to do is reduce my spd in stroke and produce the same CB velocity (generally speaking). The byproduct of this was greater control of aim. So is this a gain in break control something that everyone can enjoy..? Most likely not. I'm not special, but I was at a glass ceiling in performance with my break. What a CF breaker gave me was an edge that has produced notable improvement in that regard.

I would not recommend high dollar "performance" equipment to a regular joe. If a seasoned/schooled player needed something to squeeze a little more out of their heavily developed game..?..., then yes I would.

So to answer your question directly. Is there a difference between a BK-Rush and a Sneaky with hard tip..?..., yes there most certainly is.

That said, will the average joe hit their break any better with the high dollar option...?..., most likely not. Can a strong "Sneaky" breaker out do a strong BK-Rush breaker...?..., most definitely.

Price tag aside. There is something to the new tech available. To gain the potential advantage though, you need to be a player that both know their limits and how to utilize the tech.
 
How did the Cuetec Propel compare with jump cues you had used in the past?
I've hit countless jumpers but only used three with any regularity.

The longest runner was my OG Falcon jump/break. I generally have a fairly straight stroke and used to cue up to a jump in the same manner as a normal shot, (forearm down). Range was the problem with this solid maple / phenolic tipped jumper. I could only muscle it so far and anything closer than 6" was a no go. I was very accurate though, and because of the limits of the cue my success rate was high. Not just in hitting the OB but potting the ball.

The upgrade to the custom jumper made by my cue guy was indeed an improvement. It was an experiment in building a jumper I believe, and it ended up being fairly light. That said, the weight was all at the tip, (brass slug within ferrule). Range was more limited due to weight than the Falcon, but I could get the ball in the air faster. Short jumps became more of an option. Success rate was on par to the old jumper.

The Propel is easily the best jumper I've ever hit. Although there are some models available now that should be comparable that I haven't tried. (Latest Predator and Mezz among those.) The long distance range is incredible. Almost nothing I can't reach if I really wanted to. It comes with practice of course but distance control is also easy to dial in. I can consistently fly the cb >4ft, land it within small inches of target zone and keep everything on the table if I choose to. Removing the weighted extension allows me to clear close obstructions. I still don't typically bother with anything under 3". Success rate with the Propel is notably lower than my previous cues. Yes, lower... The options the Propel provides has me swinging at shots I would have never bothered with prior. In competition, the Propel has saved me a few games my other jumpers definitely would not have.
 
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