8 BALL RULE QUESTION

gregcantrall said:
If you don't stereo type bar pool, I won't say Any Pocket Asshole....well not again.... tonight anyway. 😉
There are idiots and ass holes in bars but just like APA there are nice people that enjoy playing pool. It's easy enough to be cordial and enquire as to the rule set when my quarter comes up. BCA? Was the simple question as I rack. The answer determined if I was interested in sticking around for cordial recreation.
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Fair enough.

How about I rephrase it? "Based on the descriptions of typical bar table 8-ball, as seen here on AZB, I'm not entirely certain that I would enjoy the experience."

Better? ;)

Given my limited experience in such environs, asking "BCA?" would get a blank stare. Even saying "APA?", which is quite common around here, would likely get a similar response. I suck anyway, so I'm better off staying in my lane, lol.
 
straightline said:
I usually play the old scratch on the 8/loss as well. Most people do. Probably the only bar rule I use. Imprinted on it I guess.
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Don't know what most people do
Hell, I have never met most people.

We don't play scratch on the eight is loss of game unless the eight is pocketed, be it in the called pocket or otherwise.

Are most people are bangers?
 
jimmyco said:
Don't know what most people do
Hell, I have never met most people.

We don't play scratch on the eight is loss of game unless the eight is pocketed, be it in the called pocket or otherwise.

Are most people are bangers?
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Actually most people are bangers. Sub-bangers even. Unless you come from areas where organized pool is prevalent, expect the rule to be scratch on 8, lose.
 
If I remember right when I played apa and tap if you were shooting the eight and the cueball dropped in a pocket you lost. Thats what I was thinking was scratch on the eight
 
chuckpilegis said:
If I remember right when I played apa and tap if you were shooting the eight and the cueball dropped in a pocket you lost. Thats what I was thinking was scratch on the eight
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It's the loss part in that's in question. Official rules say no if the 8 is on the table.
 
chuckpilegis said:
Thats what I was thinking was scratch on the eight
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Yes, that's a scratch. Scratch and foul have become interchangeable with some. Some will call missing the ball but staying on the table a scratch rather than foul. That easily morphs to loss on the 8 if you don't hit it when it's your object ball. .(.not a good way to play ). With the "what's BCA " crowd that's a loss.
Funny rules can usually be turned on the uneducated. That's the definition of ignorant. My funniest observation of ignorance came at a weekly 8 ball tournament in Tri Cities. A guy sitting at the bar at the conclusion of the tournament was making fun of the "ball in hand rules". His statement was on the order of, "I'm from Texas and real men play, if you scratch the break you lose. I will play for 50 a game anyone that plays by the right rules." H e had consumed to his limit and Mr 600 happened to be playing in our little sissy tournament that night. 🤷‍♂️
Shirley more than one ran and got John and all gathered to watch the fun. After the explanation of the rules and challenge, John said, "okay fine you can have the break." Well of course The Man from Texas scratched the break. 🤷‍♂️ Paid the 50 and John (being a true gentleman) repacked and gave up the break again. Of course the Real man broke and scratched again. Evidently 2 barrels was all a real man from Texas needed cause now his ass was broke. Giggle 🤭
 
Being a lowly C player last year (I'm probably a B now), I don't often play outside my lane. But I did travel to New Rochelle last year while visiting my uncle and went into a bar with a bar box in the middle of one afternoon. There were some youngsters playing, maybe very early 20s. I asked if I could get into their rotation, selected a house cue, and played some 8-ball with them.

They were playing Last Pocket, which I had never played before. Interesting, I liked it. One rack the 8 was near a corner pocket, and my last suit pocket was the diagonally opposite pocket. There wasn't enough room to get behind the 8 to send it back up to the other corner, so I set up the 8 to do a two-rail into the last pocket. The young man I was playing snickered, thinking there's no way, and I'd leave the 8 in front of that pocket, which happened to be his last pocket, too. Nailed the two-rail bank. The young guys congratulated me. This was about five racks in, and I had held the table. I took my meager accolades, bought the boys a round, and called it an afternoon. Sometimes it's fun being the big fish in a very small pond. LOL.
 
dquarasr said:
which happened to be his last pocket, too.
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They didn't even know how to play last pocket. Played the right way both can't have the same last pocket. I forget what happened if I made my last ball in a pocket already claimed as their last. Last Pocket is a valid game and Portland Slim gave me lessons in same. It's been a long time and Old timers is my claim for ignorance of the finer points of the game.
Still a good story. 👍
 
dquarasr said:
Side pockets don't pull in cue balls because of gravity. It's because side pockets suck.
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I have wished I could try a seven foot table with just corner pockets. Just ignoring side pockets doesn't open up the banking lanes. Never been on a seven foot snooker table either, something else I would like to try.

Hu
 
dquarasr said:
Being a lowly C player last year (I'm probably a B now), I don't often play outside my lane. But I did travel to New Rochelle last year while visiting my uncle and went into a bar with a bar box in the middle of one afternoon. There were some youngsters playing, maybe very early 20s. I asked if I could get into their rotation, selected a house cue, and played some 8-ball with them.

They were playing Last Pocket, which I had never played before. Interesting, I liked it. One rack the 8 was near a corner pocket, and my last suit pocket was the diagonally opposite pocket. There wasn't enough room to get behind the 8 to send it back up to the other corner, so I set up the 8 to do a two-rail into the last pocket. The young man I was playing snickered, thinking there's no way, and I'd leave the 8 in front of that pocket, which happened to be his last pocket, too. Nailed the two-rail bank. The young guys congratulated me. This was about five racks in, and I had held the table. I took my meager accolades, bought the boys a round, and called it an afternoon. Sometimes it's fun being the big fish in a very small pond. LOL.
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We used to play variations on that at our Eagles Club, back in the day. It was usually used as a way to handicap a much stronger player, to keep things interesting. The stronger player would have to do the last pocket thing, the lesser player just had to pocket things the regular way. (Called pocket though) Or they had to bank the 8 (or 9 in 9-ball). Another variation we used was the stronger player had to call the current shot, and the next one too, before shooting. That was such fun to me that after a while, when I was the lesser player getting the advantage, i just started playing the same way, too. I kinda miss that game...
 
bbb said:
Shooter trying to make the 8 for the game
has to kick
tries to kick
hits his opponents ball (foul)
hits the 8 and makes it
loss of game?
or 8 spots and ball in hand?
i dont play 8 ball
happened to my friend
whats the rule?
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Loss of game
 
gregcantrall said:
They didn't even know how to play last pocket. Played the right way both can't have the same last pocket. I forget what happened if I made my last ball in a pocket already claimed as their last. Last Pocket is a valid game and Portland Slim gave me lessons in same. It's been a long time and Old timers is my claim for ignorance of the finer points of the game.
Still a good story. 👍
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Ok. So, do you nominate that pocket before the rack starts? The way they played it, the 8 had to go into the pocket the last of your suit went into.
 
dquarasr said:
Ok. So, do you nominate that pocket before the rack starts? The way they played it, the 8 had to go into the pocket the last of your suit went into.
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thats how i played last pocket 8 ball (long time ago)
 
Always check the House rules before playing. They are almost always posted for stopping fight's. Back in the early 70's I could drive 25 miles and completely different game. If you think anything else matters except House Rules think again.
 
dquarasr said:
Ok. So, do you nominate that pocket before the rack starts? The way they played it, the 8 had to go into the pocket the last of your suit went into.
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Your 8 ball pocket will be whatever pocket your last object ball goes into. The way we played if that is already your opponents last pocket and you make your last object ball in the same pocket your pocket will be in the opposite pocket ie: opposite side or opposite corner, declaring an 8 ball pocket before the game begins really wouldn't be last pocket.
 
I have been trying to remember what happened if I made my last ball in the pocket already claimed. I dug up my 1978 BCA rule book which addresses last pocket as an 8 ball variation. No joy. No mention of that situation. The best I can come up with is a seems like. Seems like if I made my last ball in his pocket it came up and on the spot and I shot again. Probably the most favorable to the shooter of any of the solutions I have seen offered in my internet search. Didn't even find that option but A big If I Remember right, it was a long time ago.
 
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