Help with palmer ID
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billiards_watch
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Isn't that model the one with the foil butt?
Thank you and yes not looking to sell. Just the history on it as i have tried to take up playing. I shoot with a Predator 3.14 now and would love to invest some money into a customer cue with the "metal stamp" piece but i realize that would destroy this original so not likely
billiards_watch
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Naw I wouldn't touch that cue. Leave as is and shoot with it once in awhile.
These old cues don't shoot very well compared to the modern cues.
it looks like genes, (gene died in early 71), model 6 or 8. but since it has a rubber bumper it likely was made later even by peter in the early 80,s
possibly some had rubbers made by gene in the late 60.s to 70 but i dont remember any.
that cue when in its early stage sold for 60 dollars. later about 100.
possibly some had rubbers made by gene in the late 60.s to 70 but i dont remember any.
that cue when in its early stage sold for 60 dollars. later about 100.
Unfortunately that ferrule is a mess. Cracked, and if it's ivory, it's done.
Nice piece. Unfortunately, that ferrule is shot. Cracked, and if Ivory, it's done.
MTfish
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Very cool cue. I had a friend in the 90's that played with a similar old Palmer and I always thought it hit great. Mensabum is right about the ferrule, probably gone. I'm pretty sure most all of the old Palmer's use a 5/16x14 pin so you should be able to use any shaft with that pin, 314 or otherwise. Probably not something you want to take to a ganky bar, but I always thought the old Palmers hit really nice.
I would agree that this looks like a Palmer Second Catalog Model D - it was most probably made in the mid to late 60s/early 70s. The second catalog Palmers had longer butt caps than the first catalog Palmers- and the ferrules were mostly permanently attached and did not screw off to be changed. A rubber bumper was easily added to most second catalog Palmers. The ferrules were mostly NOT Ivory or Micarta ( they did yellow with age), but they were mostly a synthetic plastic polymer material. The joint screws were 99% 5/16 18 but , yes you may see a 5/16 14 joint screw, but rare. Palmer did not use as many Titilist cues in making the second and third catalog cues- This looks like a Titilist- but Gus Szamboti, Burton Spain, and others supplied 4 veneer pointed forearms to many, many of the second Catalog Palmers.
The cue should play as well as any "modern" cue- it depends upon the shooter. they were very, very solid playing cues. The shaft, if reasonably straight, should probably have a new ferrule, tip and reconditioning if you intend some serious play with this cue. Leaving the cue as is --- always an option for originality- but the shaft looks like it needs some front end work to be playable.
Nice cue- if reasonably straight, does not look banged up on the butt end- probably a current market of $600 to $1000 as is- depending on who is looking to add to a vintage Palmer collection.
I'll add- if it was my Grandfather's cue- it would NOT be sold.
The cue should play as well as any "modern" cue- it depends upon the shooter. they were very, very solid playing cues. The shaft, if reasonably straight, should probably have a new ferrule, tip and reconditioning if you intend some serious play with this cue. Leaving the cue as is --- always an option for originality- but the shaft looks like it needs some front end work to be playable.
Nice cue- if reasonably straight, does not look banged up on the butt end- probably a current market of $600 to $1000 as is- depending on who is looking to add to a vintage Palmer collection.
I'll add- if it was my Grandfather's cue- it would NOT be sold.
Who was your great grandfather?
I played pool in the Pt. Pleasant area going back to 1961.
I played pool in the Pt. Pleasant area going back to 1961.
billiards_watch
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I would love to get my hands on these cues. I heard it was the best at one point in time.
Biloxi Boy
Man With A Golden Arm
Ultimately, the only thing to be reaped from a sale will be regret.
palmers were good cues but also hit and miss on some of them. as with many cues. thats why in general ill buy used that i have hit with.
the titlest blanks came out the best. after gene died in 71 the cues went downhill but slowly though. until junk in my opinion.
the titlest blanks came out the best. after gene died in 71 the cues went downhill but slowly though. until junk in my opinion.