Are Gold Crowns Still Being "Diamondized?"

I’m putting big nobby tired on my Rolls Royce
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I want to make it something it’s not……

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Fatboy😃
 
Not going to Bentleyise it?
Not a bad idea!

Bentley’s drive MUCH better. But the gap is closing on that a bit.

I’ve had that car 14 years and it’s got 5500 miles on it. It’s a waste of $. I don’t drive much anyways but that car drives worse than just about any car I’ve owned. Looks cool, that’s it.

On the topic of GC’s the only thing to do is extend the rails a bit to make a 1P pocket profile. Otherwise leave them be! I’d never modify a GC. Against my religion

Fatboy<—-loves GC’s
 
I’ve had that car 14 years and it’s got 5500 miles on it. It’s a waste of $. I don’t drive much anyways but that car drives worse than just about any car I’ve owned. Looks cool, that’s it.
White on white in white convert has potential.
On the topic of GC’s the only thing to do is extend the rails a bit to make a 1P pocket profile. Otherwise leave them be! I’d never modify a GC. Against my religion
Best enjoyed when played on and stared at👍. Modern Art.
Fatboy<—-loves GC’s
GoldCrown>>>>> Name ain't Diamond.
 

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A casual player isn't going to miss more or less from 5'' pockets to 4.5'' or even 4.25'' especially when they are hitting center ball or playing up and down English. If they aren't that good than they won't even notice. If they are good enough to pocket balls on 5'' then they are good enough for 4.25''.

The only people they affect are players like us that play a lot and know how to apply every English at the cue ball with throw and deflection in mind. All those times when we would rattle the ball because of the English used that throws the ball off its path -or- cheat the pocket.

I would recommend getting whatever size, you as the owner, would prefer to play on.

I play on 4.25 pockets and I'm use to it. I do think 4 would get tricky and probably eliminate a lot of shots towards the side pocket.
 
A casual player isn't going to miss more or less from 5'' pockets to 4.5'' or even 4.25'' especially when they are hitting center ball or playing up and down English. If they aren't that good than they won't even notice. If they are good enough to pocket balls on 5'' then they are good enough for 4.25''.
if you truly believe the bolded parts above i think you are very wrong!!!!!
the casual player is not very accurate and needs the extra margin of error the bigger pocket gives them.
all the balls they slop in on the 5 inch pocket would never go on a 4.5 inch and for sure on a 4.25 inch pocket
jmho
 
if you truly believe the bolded parts above i think you are very wrong!!!!!
the casual player is not very accurate and needs the extra margin of error the bigger pocket gives them.
all the balls they slop in on the 5 inch pocket would never go on a 4.5 inch and for sure on a 4.25 inch pocket
jmho
I can’t count how many times I’ve played on 4.5” pockets that when I hit the ball I said “missed that one” but some how it went in, “that never would have go in at Buffalo’s”.
 
if you truly believe the bolded parts above i think you are very wrong!!!!!
the casual player is not very accurate and needs the extra margin of error the bigger pocket gives them.
all the balls they slop in on the 5 inch pocket would never go on a 4.5 inch and for sure on a 4.25 inch pocket
jmho

^^^^ This ^^^^

I can’t count how many times I’ve played on 4.5” pockets that when I hit the ball I said “missed that one” but some how it went in, “that never would have go in at Buffalo’s”.

^^^^ And this ^^^^
 
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if you truly believe the bolded parts above i think you are very wrong!!!!!
the casual player is not very accurate and needs the extra margin of error the bigger pocket gives them.
all the balls they slop in on the 5 inch pocket would never go on a 4.5 inch and for sure on a 4.25 inch pocket ...
Well, in a way he's right, depending on how you do the math.

On a loose table, the weak player misses maybe 20% of his shots. The champ misses 2%..

On the tight table, the weak player misses 30% of his shots, but the champ misses 5%..

I haven't done the stats, but I would expect the result to be similar to that. By number of misses, the weak player is hurt more, missing 10 more in every hundred shots. By the ratio of misses, the champ is hurt more, as he misses more than twice as often on the hard table.
 
A casual player isn't going to miss more or less from 5'' pockets to 4.5'' or even 4.25'' especially when they are hitting center ball or playing up and down English. If they aren't that good than they won't even notice. If they are good enough to pocket balls on 5'' then they are good enough for 4.25''.
Well, in a way he's right, depending on how you do the math.

On a loose table, the weak player misses maybe 20% of his shots. The champ misses 2%..

On the tight table, the weak player misses 30% of his shots, but the champ misses 5%..

I haven't done the stats, but I would expect the result to be similar to that. By number of misses, the weak player is hurt more, missing 10 more in every hundred shots. By the ratio of misses, the champ is hurt more, as he misses more than twice as often on the hard table.
bob
billiards_watch said the misses would be the same
which it seems you agree is not correct
how the table effects the better player was not part of the discussion.
 
bob
billiards_watch said the misses would be the same
which it seems you agree is not correct
how the table effects the better player was not part of the discussion.
Yeah, he's not very right, but there is a glimmer. ;)
 
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Holy $h!t Fatboy, if that's your home (its beautiful) I shouldnt even be conversing with you, you are leagues beyond my social standing!!!!!! :) (have you ever considered adopting, I need parents)
That’s my house, I had to downsize a couple times. I’ve been very lucky. I’m actually selling that house and leaving Ca. I had a crazy huge house in Vegas until 2011 or 12.

It’s not a happy ending, that house in the pic is by far the most comfortable move to live in house I’ve ever lived in, it’s not near the most expensive or largest. Bigger isn’t more comfortable-so I’ve been told😂😅😉. Ok that’s a lie, nobody told me that ever……

LA sucks these days, I’m bored to tears living there. Staying home is amazing, beyond that it’s not good. My insurance went up from 12K a year to 145K. And the cost of living in LA is just too much for what it’s became. So I left. It’s in escrow now. I wish I could take it with me and set it somewhere else.

I bought that house in the pic from Dr Dre in 2019. When I’m officially out of there I’ll post pics and the address. Never met Dre, he owned it 21-22 years. That just the back story-kinda cool. I also have 2 sets of pool balls he left I’ll post pics of, they are customized with his name on them. I sold his table. Was a 8’ POS home table.

I still owe you a pm, I haven’t forgot. I pop on here make a post and bounce out. I need to write you

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Fatboy😃
 
I'm searching for answers. If Diamondizing my GCIV will finally help me make a ball and get more chances at a runout then I am all for it. The way it is now makes the following the norm when I head down to my table:

1) Work on 2-3 shots/speed.
2) Rack balls and break.
3) Nothing goes in.
4) No decent spreads.
5) My attitude gets bad. I develop the "Here We Go Again" outlook.
6) After 44 breaks and only 1-2 decent chances to run out I say the heck with it and quit.

r/DCP

p.s. I have always thought from the first day I got this GCIV that it sort of played slow, heavy, whatever you want to call it.
Im curious.

Play 25 racks. Break and take ball in hand. How many times do you run out from there?
 
Im curious.

Play 25 racks. Break and take ball in hand. How many times do you run out from there?

I would say probably one.

As I've repeatedly said, I get the most difficult spreads imaginable. If prime Efren tried to run out from my breaks he'd give the game up.
 
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