Are Gold Crowns Still Being "Diamondized?"

Bob Jewett said:
Maybe not.



I tell such students that they should work on increasing their stroke speed, but what they need to work on most is not scratching on the break. The cue ball should not hit any cushion unless it gets kissed.
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All the current pro’s are having the CB hitting the middle long diamond and traveling side to side.
 
jtompilot said:
All the current pro’s are having the CB hitting the middle long diamond and traveling side to side.
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These are primarily with the 9 ball racked on the spot and breaking from a break box. They are cut breaking the 1 ball into the side pocket.
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
This wouldn't really be a problem. More like 30-40%.

I guess it depends on the spread. Taking BIH when there is an extremely difficult spread on the table isn't a recipe for runout success. And I don't care who you are. And that includes prime Efren.

Speaking of the break - last night I watched an Accu-Stats DVD from the 1999 U.S. Open match between Bustamante and Rempe. I've watched the first nine (9) racks. So far they are 0-9 when it comes to squatting the CB.

From what I have seen squatting the CB and keeping it in the middle of the table is almost rare.
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You should probably watch some matches from the current century, on current equipment.

And they are not breaking with a template rack, which wires the wing ball for the corner pocket at almost any speed. The strategy for a different rack, or for the 9 ball racking on the spot, or for breaking from a break box is different than the strategy for breaking with a template with the 1 on the spot and no break box requirement.
 
Hungarian said:
Yep, I have a summer home on a lake where the designer left room for a pool table but it's only big enough for a 7 footer. A GC1 in blue and white would fit perfectly with the interior design.
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Well, they made them in 8' configurations, right? Surely someone could chop one up for you!
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
FYI,
I watched a match from the Sands Regency in Reno last night. It was one of my Accu-Stats DVDs from back around 1994. Buddy Hall and Rudolfo Luat. It ended up 11-10 Buddy Hall. Of those 21 break shots I believe 19 or 20 never ended up near the center of the table. They were, however, using the break box.

Rarely do I ever see a pro squat the CB in the middle of the table. Or at least have it stay there.
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I think it was said earlier in this thread, but it's absolutely been said many times here on azb.. the one ball generally ends up near the top rail, if it doesn't go in the pocket.

I like to play the cue ball to the top end of the table.

Sometimes that first shot is a hard one. Maintaining control is the goal, whether you make the 1b or not

You(breaker) cometo the table with an excellent shot. You want to see your opponent's first trip to the table is a worse, if not horrible-er than worse.
 
jfred0826 said:
Somewhere in this thread, a person asked if Diamondizing a Gold Crown would make the GC play better. In my experience, the answer is yes. Fourteen or fifteen years ago, there was a thread to that effect. A guy named RealKingCobra, who was, and may still be, a well-known table mechanic, discussed the process at length. I followed his posts closely because I wanted to learn to work on pool tables. I used to be in the cabinet business, so I already had all the tools and the skills needed to Diamondize my early 1960's Gold Crown I. Using RKC's numbers, I changed the pocket angle and the bevel of the sub-rails at the pockets. That improved my table's ease of play especially for shooting hard into the pockets straight down the rail or from a low angle from the rail. The number of balls that rattled in the jaws and spit back out of the pockets was greatly reduced. Unfortunately, I did add a thicker facing to the cushion going into the pockets to reduce the width to 4 3/4 inches. Next time I recover the table, I will go back to 5-inch pockets.
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I've played on a few properly redone gold crowns and they are fabulous.
 
jtompilot said:
All the current pro’s are having the CB hitting the middle long diamond and traveling side to side.
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That's with the nine on the spot and a break box -- pro tour rules. I don't think the OP is using that system or playing in those events.
 
Black-Balled said:
But the break rules are different now. That 9 on the spot changes the break lots.
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That's majors though. No local/amateur tournaments do that. No one that matches up around us does that either from what I have seen.
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
FYI,
I did manage to break and run out a few minutes ago. I also screwed up a runnable rack. And to finish the runout I had a fairly long straight in shot on the 7B to draw back for the 8B. I manage to make the 7B and draw back for excellent position on the 8B, and finish out the rack.
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It's working already!!😂
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
Ok, here you go. These were my first two breaks. As you can see in Rack #1 the 1B is right behind the 6B. No shot here. Imagine that.

And in Rack #2 I actually made three balls but, as you can see, the CB got kicked around and there is no shot on the 2B. Imagine that.

This is the norm. And it's about this time after 3-4 racks of the same crap as this that I start to get that shitty attitude. Here we go again, that's what I say to myself.
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It's Voodoo mane.😂 Seriously tho, you said that's 860?? Cloth looks thick and new. That's gonna hold a shitload of Dampness bro. Gonna play slow and take more juice if that's how you play. Just a guess on my part of course, but I'd concentrate on getting more humidity out of that area. Imo.
 
Mensabum said:
It's Voodoo mane.😂 Seriously tho, you said that's 860?? Cloth looks thick and new. That's gonna hold a shitload of Dampness bro. Gonna play slow and take more juice if that's how you play. Just a guess on my part of course, but I'd concentrate on getting more humidity out of that area. Imo.
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I run the dehumidifier all the time.

Yes, that is Apple Green Simonis 860. Installed around the middle March time frame.
 
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