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InsertCleverNameHere

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A little bit ago a friend of mine and I were trading some pool stories back and forth and he told me one I hadn't heard even a version of before...

So He shows up at the poolroom and sees a known champion playing one of the local bookies on a bar table some 9 ball. The bookie is a C player at best but boy does he love to move some Benjamins around playing and betting on pool. My buddy grabs a chair at the bar and gathers that the game is the 5-7 last 2 and the breaks. The bookie has no shot of course. In fact at the time, the champion is up 14 games. So my buddy having a great relationship with the bookie casually asks if he wants something on the side so they agree to bet 100 per game on the side. Mind you they were betting 300 a game. The champion suddenly can't make a ball and misses conveniently on the 5 or 7 TEN GAMES IN A ROW! 😬 So my buddy pulls up and pays off the $1000 and then just watches.... The champion goes on to win something like $6000 before the bookie finally quits him. He didn't say it but the point was made...
 
Not gonna name any names but i've seen a few TOP players(HOF'rs in fact) trim up side bettors in various schemes along these lines. One goes in a joint and plays like god and everyone likes their chances with him. In walks this 'random' dude and he proceeds to 'barely' beat their new hero. The two 'combatants' meet up at Denny's and wack the $$$ up. As an old friend always said, "We ain't in church".
 
garczar said:
Not gonna name any names but i've seen a few TOP players(HOF'rs in fact) trim up side bettors in various schemes along these lines. One goes in a joint and plays like god and everyone likes their chances with him. In walks this 'random' dude and he proceeds to 'barely' beat their new hero. The two 'combatants' meet up at Denny's and wack the $$$ up. As an old friend always said, "We ain't in church".
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‘ We meet at the dumpster at midnight’.
 
I mean sure but dude set fire to his own $3000 to do it. Kinda different. But some would say he won what he could win anyway but that's not true at all. Had he gotten the bookie more stuck quicker he almost certainly woulda raised the bet and gone slap off for 15-20k. This player cost himself a good bit doing this imo.

And oh btw they didn't "chop up" the money, the bookie just made a thousand.
ShootingArts said:
Chopping up the rail one way or the other is as old as gambling on the rail.

Hu
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InsertCleverNameHere said:
I mean sure but dude set fire to his own $3000 to do it. Kinda different. But some would say he won what he could win anyway but that's not true at all. Had he gotten the bookie more stuck quicker he almost certainly woulda raised the bet and gone slap off for 15-20k. This player cost himself a good bit doing this imo.

And oh btw they didn't "chop up" the money, the bookie just made a thousand.
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And you are sure of all of your facts right?

Dollars to donuts when the rail gets taken there is a split between players. Almost always the way such things go.

Hu
 
Since i don't know any of the full details my WAG is that the player hated the railbird's guts and didn't want him to win a fkng quarter. He knew the bookie was a degenerate gambler and was most likely his own personal human ATM machine, someone he could and probably did rob at will. Losing some to get rid of the r'bird was no big deal. Again, just a WAG.
 
InsertCleverNameHere said:
Exactly right. Batshit crazy though imo. The side bet didn’t change what he could win in the slightest. I could see how it would in some situations but not this one.
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Wrong. The bookie might have only had 6000 in his pocket. Whatever the railbird took would have cut into his profit. Also, the bookie might have only had 5000 but he won the 1000 from the railbird and hustler got that too.
 
wacokid9ball said:
Wrong. The bookie might have only had 6000 in his pocket. Whatever the railbird took would have cut into his profit. Also, the bookie might have only had 5000 but he won the 1000 from the railbird and hustler got that too.
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Sounds great and I understand why you’d think this way. Makes sense.

However this bookie had a habit of going off for more than he had with him at the time so what he had on him wasn’t really relevant and the champion definitely knew that.

But alas, I’m the one that’s “wrong” in this scenario I happen to know a ton about.
 
InsertCleverNameHere said:
Sounds great and I understand why you’d think this way. Makes sense.

However this bookie had a habit of going off for more than he had with him at the time so what he had on him wasn’t really relevant and the champion definitely knew that.

But alas, I’m the one that’s “wrong” in this scenario I happen to know a ton about.
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But you didn’t say that. Mr 3 Cushion posted a while back about matching up with a bookie in Denver. He got unlucky that the bookie had a substantial loss before playing Bill. But Pic was old school and didn’t fire air barrels. Or that is my assumption. I only played him in a weekly tournament when he was not long for the world. Rumor was Pic was not somebody to trifle with in his younger years. In any event I personally would not want a substantial amount of accounts payable with a bookie who liked to go off. Maybe the IOUs were gold. I dunno. I bet the champion preferred cash to debt.
 
Doesn’t matter how much the bookie was willing to go off for, the only way to get side-bet’s money was to get it into the bookies hands first. Seems likely that’s what the player was doing. No chop needed.


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