I keep a half-dozen in my case...I've been using Pooldawg8's tips for over ten years. His last a long time and play as good as any layered tip I've ever used.
Elkmaster Milk dud tips, real or just hype???
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Two week soak, use vice grips in a tip tool to a dime to squeeze it down on a medium to soft amount of force,
dry for in the tip tool for 3 to 5 days then remove and place on the window sill. Best tip by far. Grippy
but not too much. No comparison to a regular Elkmaster. I use whatever Coffee Creamer I have. It soaks it in and
I add a little water to thin it some and add creamer if needed. I soak it in a shot glass.
Tips are personal choice, many good Tips.
Everyone has their favorite.
Everyone has their favorite.
I've been experimenting for years with elk masters and soaking and pressing them, and my experience is that a "good" elk master plays just as good if not better than any milk dud. I found a seller on Ebay that sells a bag, not box, in a genuine tweeten resealable bag of 50 count elk masters and they are the best and most consistent I have ever come across, they hit amazing, they sound great and hold chalk like nothing else. The tips have are a great height and are not fluff balls or accordions. They mostly weigh in at 85-91 grams, very dense and not dried out junk. It was hard to find once over 65g for a long time.
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Well...are you going to make us beg? Okay, who is the seller?
I have shot with dudded tips since the early eighties when perhaps the first, Jensen Cues, started making them I believe. Some years back I had calipers and precision scales on hand so measured and weighed some Elkmasters. Out of a box nine were superlight, I round filed them. At less than forty cents each no pain. Four were real heavy. I saved these to see how they hit but they got lost in a storm before I got around to it. The rest of the tips fell into two very consistent groups. I dudded some but found these played just fine dudded or not since I like a fairly soft tip. When I dud I just compress back to near standard height. I have seen some tips crushed down to where the structure of the leather is damaged, not something I want.
In recent years Elkmaster offers a sorted Elkmaster straight from the factory. They call them Pro's or something and charge a premium for them. Leads me to wonder what they do with the culls. I doubt they throw them away so I suspect that when you buy a box of Elkmaster tips you get a little higher percentage of culls now. Don't know that for a fact, just a suspicion.
I suspect anyone that likes medium hard duds can get a twenty or twenty-five dollar digital scale and a box of Elkmaster tips to sort for yourself and have a lifetime supply, no dudding needed. I suspect those nine super light tips would have benefitted from dudding, the two groups that were in the medium weight range don't particularly need it for my use. Dud, don't dud, I don't care.
I don't like layered tips because of questionable consistency which I have encountered even with premium brands. You find out fast if a single layer tip is good or crap and it is the same as long as it has playing height left. I am easy on tips and use them for years. Rolling dents instead of scuffing leather is a big reason for that.
A bit of tip information that most probably didn't need!
Hu
In recent years Elkmaster offers a sorted Elkmaster straight from the factory. They call them Pro's or something and charge a premium for them. Leads me to wonder what they do with the culls. I doubt they throw them away so I suspect that when you buy a box of Elkmaster tips you get a little higher percentage of culls now. Don't know that for a fact, just a suspicion.
I suspect anyone that likes medium hard duds can get a twenty or twenty-five dollar digital scale and a box of Elkmaster tips to sort for yourself and have a lifetime supply, no dudding needed. I suspect those nine super light tips would have benefitted from dudding, the two groups that were in the medium weight range don't particularly need it for my use. Dud, don't dud, I don't care.
I don't like layered tips because of questionable consistency which I have encountered even with premium brands. You find out fast if a single layer tip is good or crap and it is the same as long as it has playing height left. I am easy on tips and use them for years. Rolling dents instead of scuffing leather is a big reason for that.
A bit of tip information that most probably didn't need!
Hu
sent you a DM with the information.
boogieman
It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that ping.
I'm curious too if you don't mind.
I'm curious too if you don't mind.
I don't understand why he doesn't post it. Can you post it please?
Here's where I got mine, Like I said the picture shows a box but I received and tweeten bag. The size I got was 13mm.
50 Elk Master Billiard Pool Cue Tips by Tweeten Fibre Co.-1 box-Choose your Size | eBay
Tip type: Play tip. Great tip for all player levels and all disciplines. Tip Hardness: Soft.
www.ebay.com
It's hype. While everything is a bit subjective, I think pretty much any of the newer layered tips like Kamui and Zan feel and hit better than a milk-dud. If you're still looking for an old style tip, go with a Triangle, they are tried and true.
Are the bagged ones better? There's a Poolroom supplies only depicts bags. Some of those flippers are ridiculous though.Here's where I got mine, Like I said the picture shows a box but I received and tweeten bag. The size I got was 13mm.
50 Elk Master Billiard Pool Cue Tips by Tweeten Fibre Co.-1 box-Choose your Size | eBay
Tip type: Play tip. Great tip for all player levels and all disciplines. Tip Hardness: Soft.www.ebay.com
I posted on this once before.
I ended up with a poofy tip Elkmaster. So I took a shot glass and poured just enough coffee creamer in it to cover the
curvature of the tip and stood it up in the kitchen corner over night. Changed the tip. That tip ended up getting 4 dips
eventually and it plays great.
Bob Jewett suggested watered down Elmers glue. I haven't tried that yet.
For me hit is one thing, but holding chalk is the best thing.
A real nice tip, should do both.
All tips hold chalk, certainly if you chalk them enough like every shot or two or three.
The Taoms go on like paint.
I love the single layered tips.
Elkmaster, Triangle.
Certainly don't have time worry about separating a layer with a solid tip while shaping it.
Love the sound of a harder tip.
Almost can't be hard enough.
Yeah hard tips, are my favourite too, it always feels like the CB reacts quicker. And yep, the best ones that do this, are the single layer tips. Again trying to find consistency among all these, is tricky, no matter how long it lasts.
From what I can tell yes they are better went coming in the resealable bag, at least the 50 I got are. Some of you may have had good luck over the years with getting boxes of them but not me, and its even worse when I had just bought a certain amount from online. The ones I have now are the tits imho. Just wanted to help and share some info as usual. Best of luck.
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I got good stuff at the old Atlas Billiards for the seriously best consumer price. Ran out of the WBs but I still have a dozen or so 12mm EMs. Amazon had 13mm EMs for 20 bucks. A slathering of super glue (gets absorbed into the tip) renders them uniform and solves all shaping issues.