Elkmaster Milk dud tips, real or just hype???

The Old Jaybird said:
Are they worth the effort? Better off with just a standard Elkmaster? What say you??
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Two week soak, use vice grips in a tip tool to a dime to squeeze it down on a medium to soft amount of force,
dry for in the tip tool for 3 to 5 days then remove and place on the window sill. Best tip by far. Grippy
but not too much. No comparison to a regular Elkmaster. I use whatever Coffee Creamer I have. It soaks it in and
I add a little water to thin it some and add creamer if needed. I soak it in a shot glass.
 
I've been experimenting for years with elk masters and soaking and pressing them, and my experience is that a "good" elk master plays just as good if not better than any milk dud. I found a seller on Ebay that sells a bag, not box, in a genuine tweeten resealable bag of 50 count elk masters and they are the best and most consistent I have ever come across, they hit amazing, they sound great and hold chalk like nothing else. The tips have are a great height and are not fluff balls or accordions. They mostly weigh in at 85-91 grams, very dense and not dried out junk. It was hard to find once over 65g for a long time.
 
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Been using them for years. They play like a soft tip, but don’t expand (I no longer need my burnishing tool), and last a very long time if you use a tapper only. Problem is, that some in the delivered batch are too thin to bother with installing.
 
I have shot with dudded tips since the early eighties when perhaps the first, Jensen Cues, started making them I believe. Some years back I had calipers and precision scales on hand so measured and weighed some Elkmasters. Out of a box nine were superlight, I round filed them. At less than forty cents each no pain. Four were real heavy. I saved these to see how they hit but they got lost in a storm before I got around to it. The rest of the tips fell into two very consistent groups. I dudded some but found these played just fine dudded or not since I like a fairly soft tip. When I dud I just compress back to near standard height. I have seen some tips crushed down to where the structure of the leather is damaged, not something I want.

In recent years Elkmaster offers a sorted Elkmaster straight from the factory. They call them Pro's or something and charge a premium for them. Leads me to wonder what they do with the culls. I doubt they throw them away so I suspect that when you buy a box of Elkmaster tips you get a little higher percentage of culls now. Don't know that for a fact, just a suspicion.

I suspect anyone that likes medium hard duds can get a twenty or twenty-five dollar digital scale and a box of Elkmaster tips to sort for yourself and have a lifetime supply, no dudding needed. I suspect those nine super light tips would have benefitted from dudding, the two groups that were in the medium weight range don't particularly need it for my use. Dud, don't dud, I don't care.

I don't like layered tips because of questionable consistency which I have encountered even with premium brands. You find out fast if a single layer tip is good or crap and it is the same as long as it has playing height left. I am easy on tips and use them for years. Rolling dents instead of scuffing leather is a big reason for that.

A bit of tip information that most probably didn't need!

Hu
 
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