What do I have here?

[thrillsoft]

Certainly does look like Rich Merry Widow.
Rich did have a decent supply of BRW.

When I picked it up... (super cheap) I thought it looked like a Rich... but a lot of sticks looked like that. The information from someone who has the same stick and has more info for me, it actually worth more to me than the stick is worth to me.

But... it looks like a Rich to me... but no markings. Could be some cue maker that I never heard of before.

But even plain jane Rich cues aren't valuable. I'm not looking for value. Just information? Maybe made by Rich or some cue maker that I've never heard of? Someone probably has the same stick here? It looks like a high-production cue. I was hoping someone had the same stick and could give me more info.

but as it stands now... I'm thinking "plain jane" Rich. Unless someone can tell me more. The mystery is what I like, not the cue stick. LOL

 

[maha]

national had made or imported these cues or ones that are very similar to this. likely late 60's or 1970's at some point. they tend to hit very well and make a great bar or leave it in the car cue. if yours hits good never part with it.

 

[thrillsoft]

national had made or imported these cues or ones that are very similar to this. likely late 60's or 1970's at some point. they tend to hit very well and make a great bar or leave it in the car cue. if yours hits good never part with it.

Thanks for the information. I'd love to verify that that is what I have. Any pictures of something similar? I know there were so many very similar cues back then in the '70s or '60s. We're just looking for information. Some kind of verification somebody has the same thing?

 

[thrillsoft]

Thanks for the information. I'd love to verify that that is what I have. Any pictures of something similar? I know there were so many very similar cues back then in the '70s or '60s. We're just looking for information. Some kind of verification somebody has the same thing?

National made sticks in the United States and then they also shipped production overseas. Do you think this is American made? Or after they switched overseas?

 

[thrillsoft]

national had made or imported these cues or ones that are very similar to this. likely late 60's or 1970's at some point. they tend to hit very well and make a great bar or leave it in the car cue. if yours hits good never part with it.

Thanks for this information. I know that several very good cue makers worked for National in Chicago in the early days. Would this be a Chicago one? Or later import? Rich also made very similar. I was hoping to find "definitive" clues as to it's true origin? You seem to know a lot. Can you give me more information?

 

[R2PQZ]

What is "Braz"??? I'm not as knowledgeable as the people here. I've heard of lots of cues but never "Braz"? What does that mean? I know it's not valuable, I just love the mystery and challenge of finding more information.

The Brazilian Rosewood itself is worth more than the cue. Consider having a local builder reconstruct the wood into a beautiful cue. I have converted several of these cues to something special.

 

[thrillsoft]

Confirmed by "Rich" cue expert Ron Fleming that his is for sure Abe Rich cue from late 60's to early 70's. I actually have two of these similar sticks... This one is pristine and looks to be never played with. I think it's zebra wood but I'm no expert....

 

[thrillsoft]

The Brazilian Rosewood itself is worth more than the cue. Consider having a local builder reconstruct the wood into a beautiful cue. I have converted several of these cues to something special.

Do you do it yourself? Or you have it done by a favorite maker of yours? What type of wood is my other one in the pictures I just posted?

 

[R2PQZ]

Do you do it yourself? Or you have it done by a favorite maker of yours? What type of wood is my other one in the pictures I just posted?

I do it myself. Unfortunately the motor on my metal lathe is being rebuilt. Out of business for now. There are many capable builders out there. Just ask in your local poolroom. The other cue looks like zebrawood to me.

 

[middleofnowhere]

I picked this up cheap... and before all the "haters" chime in... I'm not looking for "pot of gold". I'm looking for information. It looks old. I know it's very plain. Not super valuable but I'd love to have opinions on the maker.

58 1/4" length
18.9 OZ
12.7mm ferrule
32.5mm Butt

The bumper doesn't come off. I'd like to see underneath but the screw is stripped and when I try to twist the rubber bumper with plyers, it appears frozen. I don't want to damage the bumper with any extra force than I've tried already. BUT it appears that the bumper fits "inside" a cavity on the butt. Not just added to the top, it seems to fit partially inside.

Any thoughts on this? (haters, please move on)

Thanks,

John

I'm like 99% Abe Rich made it. If you measure the joint and find that it has no taper that could be a giveaway. Abe didn't own a metal lathe and most of his joints stainless and brass were just made from tubes. I knew Abe since I was a teenager and used to go to a shop often even when he was in the back of his brother's woodturning business before he became Star cue. Originally they were called Florida cue and had a ridiculously large decal of the State of Florida on the cue.

 

[todywayne]

Nice cues, but they aren't Abe's for sure... They are both Mid 60's Rich-Q's (Sol Rich)... One is Brazilian Rosewood and the other is Zebra Wood... This is how I know they aren't Abe cues... Abe, used an epoxy on all of his bumper "screws" making them non-removable... I almost bid on em, but once I realized they weren't Abe's, I decided not to... I hope this helps... Peace out...!

 

[Chopdoc]

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