For me, next to wood screw in shaft, ivory joint is a beautiful hit, combined with 3/8-10 pin. McDermott style.
Big pin ivory joint hit
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I have a radial pin in my ivory cue and enjoy the hit very much. I also have a Predator P3 with a radial pin and a stainless joint collar which doesn't hit as nice but still plays great. That however might be my own personal bias.
It feels, "alive", when you strike a ball with it. Again, that's my personal bias.
My Biggest Disappointment Is Not Owning a Flat Faced Ivory Big Pin Cue by Joel Hercek
I searched high and low for years and posted WTB threads, worked with prominent
cue dealers and even offered a monetary reward as a finders fee for introducing me
to a seller of a Hercek cue weighing 18.5 ozs or little heavier but still under 19 ozs.
Alas, lots of cues were presented but few were within my weight specs & when the
cue was, its joint was piloted ivory vs flat which is my preferred joint as you can see.
And as far as ferrules go. OMG, ivory is truly the best material & all my cues have it.
Matt B.
I searched high and low for years and posted WTB threads, worked with prominent
cue dealers and even offered a monetary reward as a finders fee for introducing me
to a seller of a Hercek cue weighing 18.5 ozs or little heavier but still under 19 ozs.
Alas, lots of cues were presented but few were within my weight specs & when the
cue was, its joint was piloted ivory vs flat which is my preferred joint as you can see.
And as far as ferrules go. OMG, ivory is truly the best material & all my cues have it.
Matt B.
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Joe Barringer's configuration: flat ivory joint, big proprietary g10? pin, ivory ferrule, and original Moori medium is the best I've ever played with.
Starkey's wood pin and no-ferrule shaft is also very, very nice when combined with the right tip.
Starkey's wood pin and no-ferrule shaft is also very, very nice when combined with the right tip.
If the tip isn't right, everything behind it becomes pretty much meaningless.
After reading this thread and separating the chaff from the wheat I decided to get a big pin ivory flat face Scruggs. My 5/16 stainless joint Scruggs is a great player but the 3/8 10 ivory feels like butta. It may be imperceptible to some but not to me. It is prolly one of the plainest cues ever from Scruggs. Ebony 4 point with unstained birdseye. Right around 18 oz. No diamonds, no nuttin and it shoots. I no longer have to argue with Kenny Tran about overpriced cues. Ive got my player and Tran is iggy. I know the thread is old but thx for the info on joints.
The pin and joint don't determine the hit.
Its part of it. I thinking the ebony and the scruggs cue shaft is a big part as well.
Dean’s post is absolutely spot on…….I miss his showmanship style about pool cues.
Here’s my Scruggs big pin; it’d be hard to part with it for any price it plays that nice.
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Pictures. I have an ebony/maple thread going in the gallery.
I would say they shouldn't. If they do, there is something wrong.
Ivory joint ivory ferrule is like...uh, ice cream.
Cole was the finest conissewer I spoke with. I had the opportunity to strike balls with Joss West Ivory joints. I currently shot with Cole's Joss with ivory and stainless joint.
The flex at impact over stainless is a micro difference but Cole could use it to perfection. I can feel it and allow for the change to enter the calculations. Mastering it is always a challenge. Cole could make that cueball talk. I keep getting jiberish
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. The funny part is starting to understand the jiberish. Must be Old Timers.
YEP.!!@ nails it.
At the time they (Joss West) were $ 3200 range and a wait. His masterpieces works of art and the finest instruments of Balabuska quality. A friend had a McDamit custom made with ivory joint ferrule and leather Wrapped in a couple of weeks for $250. HE LET me hit a ball with it and generated Lust immediately and well envy. He could get that satisfaction. I still got his small money on the table.
Cool, at first thought? Was headscratch. The threaded connection is a possible mechanical failure site. Cole tested for Joss East.
He repaired it well. He would drape the cue over his shoulders like the ape hanger.Ivory can and will Crack. Acetone followed with super glue is a solid repair.
I highlight the repair to use as a front sight.
This topic reminds of the leather height and the sweet spot being so close to the protector. Hard tip, probably Tri angle or perhaps waterbuffalo, on now. It lasts forever now. There was a time that I was wearing them out. Not any more.
This reminds of a post evening talking with Cole. Probably burning one. Shrug
It had been a year or more since I bought the cue from him. He said, "I wouldn't be able to play with That cue now."
My thought was "well his standard of play is pretty high. He could still beat most with a broom handle.
Every cue has a personality different variables makes for infinite possibilities.
I think 
It's a subtle kind of lead in, eh??Here we go. Down the "this joint feels like......" rabbit-hole. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt.
Makes me Dizzy!!!
Nice axes!!