Take all of the weight out of your break cue

Cool, sure you’re a fun guy to be around. Have literally proven this more than a year ago here. With people who were actually fun to talk to. Do as you please, hopefully that involves contributing positively, or climbing back under your rock :)
Oh, great, you mean you have a vid of your break being clocked..?May I see it..?No..?Too bad...
 
Modern day....IF I was playing all the time and practicing the break.....I would want to be able to Hit a 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 MPH break at will.....kind of like a golfer with a wedge that has a 50, 60,70,80, 90, 100...(etc) yard swing with a wedge....I don't care for the "BIG" break....there is ALWAYS someone bigger....

I would also want to develop a "change up" break that looks like I am hitting it 20mph but comes off at 9mph;)

I feel like the days are coming (if not already) when pros start carrying 2 or 3 break cues......Some tables the light cue breaks for crap and the heavy cue pockets balls....or vice versa.

IIRC it was Scott Frost that said in a video that his playing cue is set up for 1-pocket and if he were to play rotation full time he would switch to a heavier cue.......

You heard it here first........The next big invention break cue is the "OTF" model.....the (change the weight) On The Fly break cue that is three piece and comes with multiple handle sections of different weights......Cuetec / Predator (or whoever).......please throw me a jelly roll (for the idea) when you make millions.... ;)
 
Modern day....IF I was playing all the time and practicing the break.....I would want to be able to Hit a 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 MPH break at will.....kind of like a golfer with a wedge that has a 50, 60,70,80, 90, 100...(etc) yard swing with a wedge....I don't care for the "BIG" break....there is ALWAYS someone bigger....

I would also want to develop a "change up" break that looks like I am hitting it 20mph but comes off at 9mph;)

I feel like the days are coming (if not already) when pros start carrying 2 or 3 break cues......Some tables the light cue breaks for crap and the heavy cue pockets balls....or vice versa.

IIRC it was Scott Frost that said in a video that his playing cue is set up for 1-pocket and if he were to play rotation full time he would switch to a heavier cue.......

You heard it here first........The next big invention break cue is the "OTF" model.....the (change the weight) On The Fly break cue that is three piece and comes with multiple handle sections of different weights......Cuetec / Predator (or whoever).......please throw me a jelly roll (for the idea) when you make millions.... ;)
Shaun Murphy is the first I know to take snooker cues which he chooses based on conditions. Wouldn't surprise me if this gets swallowed by the marketing and branding teams of pool companies soon.
 
So we can say that you are completely unable to substantiate your claim and think repeating it like a 5-year old would do so..?

Is that why you chose the screen name ''flake and run''..? ;-)
 
So we can say that you are completely unable to substantiate your claim and think repeating it like a 5-year old would do so..?

Is that why you chose the screen name ''flake and run''..? ;-)
Have substantiated many times, to many forum members (Even met a few in the real world, where you can touch grass - highly recommend it). Not that anyone needs to substantiate anything on an online forum. Certainly won't to rude keyboard warriors. Grow up, or ask around. Take your pick. Anonymity certainly gives some people the space to be total vindictive idiots without repercussions. Enjoy it. I am still very sure you are fun to be around, and are incredibly loved by many great friends and family members...
 
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Just some ramblings here, might sneak in a valid point or two. As a youngster I had a wicked softball pitch. So fast that literally everyone that tried to hit it swung late. The teachers would come running out of the brick building to make me stop before I damaged the brick wall since I flagged the catcher out of the way, we were mostly bare handed.

Shooting steel plates, I could draw from the surrender position and shoot five steel plates in 2.5 seconds. Not superfast but bad ears slowed me down. Anyway, just establishing adequate hand speed.

As a very young man in my twenties I could grab a cue off the wall and break hard enough to make players at nearby tables complain I was hurting their ears. Hurt mine too so I would back off.

After coming back to pool, I played exclusively on nine foot tables, mostly one pocket and nine ball, occasionally ten. There were some decent paying bar table tournaments so I decided to give them a try. Breaking on a seven foot Valley table I often broke off the rail to free up body movement. I noticed the first two balls that hit a pocket bounced out. After awhile I took the hint and started breaking more gently and those balls started staying down.

When it comes to break speed, using a cue off the wall is giving up three or four miles an hour to a synthetic tip and very hard ferrule. I retipped 144 cues for a hall. Every, every, ferrule had blue chalk between it and the wood. It flexes that much and works like a little vacuum pump. Those using shafts that were originally playing shafts you didn't change ferrules on are giving away one to three miles an hour depending on length and material of your current ferrule. Ferrules aren't needed with today's tips and shafts. If you want a white ferrule to sight with don't make it longer than the diameter of the shaft. Otherwise, a pad and tip works just fine and nothing is lost to ferrule flex. The ferrule matters, often matters a bunch, and is also often ignored.

Many years ago a fellow on here experimented with break speed. Colin Calypso?? Anyway, he went from a respectable break to going three or four miles an hour faster. What he found was that the more body parts you got in motion the faster you broke. ankles, knees, hips, all the way through your hand. The easiest way to increase your break speed is to get more of your body moving. Consider a golfer or baseball player.

One thing, hitting the cue ball and head ball squarely transfers more effective energy than going a few miles faster and not hitting balls squarely. It is amazing how well the balls will spread with a ten or twelve mile an hour break and everything square and tight.

EF=WxA That's effective force equals whack times aim. I am always impressed with the guys that can throw out formulas at the spur of the moment so I thought I would too!

One serious warning and I am out of here. Too light of a break cue can do bad things to your wrist and elbow, I don't know about your shoulder. No math to back it up but playing cue or break cue, roughly three times the weight of the cue ball seems to work well, close around eighteen ounces. That doesn't stop me from playing with a sixteen ounce cue.

Happy Labor day to those still doing such things. I make great effort to avoid labor. The more you labor, the less it pays!

Hu
 
Just some ramblings here, might sneak in a valid point or two. As a youngster I had a wicked softball pitch. So fast that literally everyone that tried to hit it swung late. The teachers would come running out of the brick building to make me stop before I damaged the brick wall since I flagged the catcher out of the way, we were mostly bare handed.

Shooting steel plates, I could draw from the surrender position and shoot five steel plates in 2.5 seconds. Not superfast but bad ears slowed me down. Anyway, just establishing adequate hand speed.

As a very young man in my twenties I could grab a cue off the wall and break hard enough to make players at nearby tables complain I was hurting their ears. Hurt mine too so I would back off.

After coming back to pool, I played exclusively on nine foot tables, mostly one pocket and nine ball, occasionally ten. There were some decent paying bar table tournaments so I decided to give them a try. Breaking on a seven foot Valley table I often broke off the rail to free up body movement. I noticed the first two balls that hit a pocket bounced out. After awhile I took the hint and started breaking more gently and those balls started staying down.

When it comes to break speed, using a cue off the wall is giving up three or four miles an hour to a synthetic tip and very hard ferrule. I retipped 144 cues for a hall. Every, every, ferrule had blue chalk between it and the wood. It flexes that much and works like a little vacuum pump. Those using shafts that were originally playing shafts you didn't change ferrules on are giving away one to three miles an hour depending on length and material of your current ferrule. Ferrules aren't needed with today's tips and shafts. If you want a white ferrule to sight with don't make it longer than the diameter of the shaft. Otherwise, a pad and tip works just fine and nothing is lost to ferrule flex. The ferrule matters, often matters a bunch, and is also often ignored.

Many years ago a fellow on here experimented with break speed. Colin Calypso?? Anyway, he went from a respectable break to going three or four miles an hour faster. What he found was that the more body parts you got in motion the faster you broke. ankles, knees, hips, all the way through your hand. The easiest way to increase your break speed is to get more of your body moving. Consider a golfer or baseball player.

One thing, hitting the cue ball and head ball squarely transfers more effective energy than going a few miles faster and not hitting balls squarely. It is amazing how well the balls will spread with a ten or twelve mile an hour break and everything square and tight.

EF=WxA That's effective force equals whack times aim. I am always impressed with the guys that can throw out formulas at the spur of the moment so I thought I would too!

One serious warning and I am out of here. Too light of a break cue can do bad things to your wrist and elbow, I don't know about your shoulder. No math to back it up but playing cue or break cue, roughly three times the weight of the cue ball seems to work well, close around eighteen ounces. That doesn't stop me from playing with a sixteen ounce cue.

Happy Labor day to those still doing such things. I make great effort to avoid labor. The more you labor, the less it pays!

Hu
Entertaining and insightful as always. Thanks for the share Hu.
 
I've been thinking of flattening the G10 like that and installing a Taom (red) over it. The G10 breaks well, but its slick as glass
and I like just a little more grip for jumping.
I can't control my spin on jump shots w a flat tip. Never know what's gonna happen after CB hits the target. Nice gentle round head makes it easier for this old dawg to put draw or follow and left/right on the shot. Fortunately, I don't need it very often.
I still practice with it regularly.
Don't want to pull it out and have rust on my hinges, ya know??
 
Just some ramblings here, might sneak in a valid point or two. As a youngster I had a wicked softball pitch. So fast that literally everyone that tried to hit it swung late. The teachers would come running out of the brick building to make me stop before I damaged the brick wall since I flagged the catcher out of the way, we were mostly bare handed.

Shooting steel plates, I could draw from the surrender position and shoot five steel plates in 2.5 seconds. Not superfast but bad ears slowed me down. Anyway, just establishing adequate hand speed.

As a very young man in my twenties I could grab a cue off the wall and break hard enough to make players at nearby tables complain I was hurting their ears. Hurt mine too so I would back off.

After coming back to pool, I played exclusively on nine foot tables, mostly one pocket and nine ball, occasionally ten. There were some decent paying bar table tournaments so I decided to give them a try. Breaking on a seven foot Valley table I often broke off the rail to free up body movement. I noticed the first two balls that hit a pocket bounced out. After awhile I took the hint and started breaking more gently and those balls started staying down.

When it comes to break speed, using a cue off the wall is giving up three or four miles an hour to a synthetic tip and very hard ferrule. I retipped 144 cues for a hall. Every, every, ferrule had blue chalk between it and the wood. It flexes that much and works like a little vacuum pump. Those using shafts that were originally playing shafts you didn't change ferrules on are giving away one to three miles an hour depending on length and material of your current ferrule. Ferrules aren't needed with today's tips and shafts. If you want a white ferrule to sight with don't make it longer than the diameter of the shaft. Otherwise, a pad and tip works just fine and nothing is lost to ferrule flex. The ferrule matters, often matters a bunch, and is also often ignored.

Many years ago a fellow on here experimented with break speed. Colin Calypso?? Anyway, he went from a respectable break to going three or four miles an hour faster. What he found was that the more body parts you got in motion the faster you broke. ankles, knees, hips, all the way through your hand. The easiest way to increase your break speed is to get more of your body moving. Consider a golfer or baseball player.

One thing, hitting the cue ball and head ball squarely transfers more effective energy than going a few miles faster and not hitting balls squarely. It is amazing how well the balls will spread with a ten or twelve mile an hour break and everything square and tight.

EF=WxA That's effective force equals whack times aim. I am always impressed with the guys that can throw out formulas at the spur of the moment so I thought I would too!

One serious warning and I am out of here. Too light of a break cue can do bad things to your wrist and elbow, I don't know about your shoulder. No math to back it up but playing cue or break cue, roughly three times the weight of the cue ball seems to work well, close around eighteen ounces. That doesn't stop me from playing with a sixteen ounce cue.

Happy Labor day to those still doing such things. I make great effort to avoid labor. The more you labor, the less it pays!

Hu
Thanks for the shout out Hu!!
Had to clock in today.😭
The night however, is mine.
Picked up a coupla new axes over the weekend and I'm headed for the hall!!😉
 
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