Philippine Open

[jbart65]

It seems every other event Matchroom put on is a “Major Event.” It really diminishes what that title stands for in my opinion.

This is not true.

Keep in mind, there are two kinds of MR events. Those organized and held by Matchroom and those organized by separate partners.

All non-invitational MR events are considered majors. All events organized by partners are consider second or third-tier ranking events.

Matchroom considers the following as majors this year: UK Open, European Open, WPC, Florida Open, U.S. Open, Hanoi Open and the Philippines Open.

All these events, except the WPC and Philippines Open, feature 256 players in double elimination to a final 64. Then single elimination. The WPC has just 128 players, but the races are longer.

The fields in all those events are stacked.

The only suspect one on this list is the Philippines Open. Just 128 players in single elimination. My guess is MR would like to make the Philippines Open, if successful, a regular major in the future structured like the others. But it was created on short notice this year with the calendar mostly filled up.

 

[VVP]

I would love to see Khalid Alghamdi vs AJ Manas match. Both extremely good youngsters in my opinion.

 

[Philthepockets]

Surprised by some of the poor play in a lot of the matches I've watched, are the tables playing particularly tough?

 

[sjm]

To your point, most of the big events the last two months have been in Asia. But Asia is, uh, a big place!

Yes, the four events to which I referred were all accessible by car and there were no time zone changes over that month. It was a player's delight.

I think Chua offers a good example of a player that performed well in this dream-month for players. With no time differences to negotiate and little travel to manage, he managed to win the Battle of the Bull and won bronze at the US Open 9ball a week later.

 

[sjm]

It seems every other event Matchroom put on is a “Major Event.” It really diminishes what that title stands for in my opinion.

Matchroom large field open events that are produced by Matchroom are the WNT majors, but there are far more non-majors than majors. To name a few, the McDermott, Super Billiards Expo, Bucharest Open, Battle of the Bull, the Dubai Knight Shot, the Scottish Open, the Peri Open and the International. These events are examples of WNT ranking events that are produced by Matchroom affiliates.

 

[skogstokig]

This is not true.

Keep in mind, there are two kinds of MR events. Those organized and held by Matchroom and those organized by separate partners.

All non-invitational MR events are considered majors. All events organized by partners are consider second or third-tier ranking events.

Matchroom considers the following as majors this year: UK Open, European Open, WPC, Florida Open, U.S. Open, Hanoi Open and the Philippines Open.

All these events, except the WPC and Philippines Open, feature 256 players in double elimination to a final 64. Then single elimination. The WPC has just 128 players, but the races are longer.

The fields in all those events are stacked.

The only suspect one on this list is the Philippines Open. Just 128 players in single elimination. My guess is MR would like to make the Philippines Open, if successful, a regular major in the future structured like the others. But it was created on short notice this year with the calendar mostly filled up.

so is peri open (200k, 256 field) and international open (less added money, around 150k total, but first prize is 35k)

 

[sjm]

so is peri open (200k, 256 field) and international open (less added money, around 150k total, but first prize is 35k)

No, these are very important WNT ranking events but are not Matchroom majors and are, therefore, not subject to player invitation methods or rules that apply to the WNT majors.

For example, the International is an alternate break event and is not subject to the invitation methods governing the WNT majors.

 

[jokrswylde]

Not to hijack, but did I see where fedor played an exhibition match against AJ? How did that turn out? Didnt see a thread on it...

 

[Monti]

How can somebody be a no show when you get drawn against the GOAT! Effren -Biado for his first game before he goes on to beat Fedor in the final

 

[markjames]

Not to hijack, but did I see where fedor played an exhibition match against AJ? How did that turn out? Didnt see a thread on it...

 

[skogstokig]

How can somebody be a no show when you get drawn against the GOAT! Effren -Biado for his first game before he goes on to beat Fedor in the final

noticed that as well. i don't know how many tournaments efren plays in these days but probably zero or close to zero. missed opportunity

 

[VVP]

How can somebody be a no show when you get drawn against the GOAT! Effren -Biado for his first game before he goes on to beat Fedor in the final

No show against Manas in the second round, unbelievable! Maybe the guy got sick.

 

[VVP]

No, these are very important WNT ranking events but are not Matchroom majors and are, therefore, not subject to player invitation methods or rules that apply to the WNT majors.

For example, the International is an alternate break event and is not subject to the invitation methods governing the WNT majors.

Are the WNT majors, invitationals? I thought they are "Open" so must at least have qualifier events?

As an aside, it looks like W10 is a combination of invitational and qualifiers? Reason why FSR couldn't play because he wasn't "invited" and did not go through the qualifier process. Did I get this right?

 

[Bob Jewett]

No show against Manas in the second round, unbelievable! Maybe the guy got sick.

Peralta's first "win" was listed as 10-0 against Alex Pagulayan, who was reported to be ill/injured, so maybe that match didn't take place.

 

[jbart65]

Are the WNT majors, invitationals? I thought they are "Open" so must at least have qualifier events?

All opens have qualifiers. The top 128 "WNT pros" get automatic spots if they want them.

It looks like W10 is a combination of invitational and qualifiers? Reason why FSR couldn't play because he wasn't "invited" and did not go through the qualifier process. Did I get this right?

Correct. Below was the selection process in 2024:

***

All those players who meet the following criteria are eligible to get a direct entry in Stage-2.

• WPA Ranking 28
• ACBS 20
• BCA 10
• EPBF 20
• AAPA 3
• CPB 3
• OPBA 3
• West Asia & Arab Countries 10
• Host Country 10
• WPA/QBSF Wild Cards 1+2
• Sponsors 2
• Qualifying Players 16

Total 128 Players

 

[VVP]

Peralta's first "win" was listed as 10-0 against Alex Pagulayan, who was reported to be ill/injured, so maybe that match didn't take place.

I would think if he didn't show up he should have gotten a NS in the first match also. Interesting that they gave Alex a 0 instead of NS.
Maybe Peralta wants to preserve the screens shot to show his grandkids that he beat Alex 10, 0 then got sick

 

[Kris_b1104]

I would think if he didn't show up he should have gotten a NS in the first match also. Interesting that they gave Alex a 0 instead of NS.
Maybe Peralta wants to preserve the screens shot to show his grandkids that he beat Alex 10, 0 then got sick

He's trying to game Fargorate

 

[iusedtoberich]

MR has a few tiers of events. I read through them a couple years ago on their site.

Blue Ribbon
Major
Satellite (was called something else but I forgot now)

The tier is based on the total prize fund.

 

[iusedtoberich]

I was talking with a top local a while back, discussing table conditions and how it affects various levels of players.

A touring pro is playing on new cloth every other week year round.

A 700 local hero is playing on new cloth once per year when the room is recovered.

So on the Joss events, for example, with a sprinkling of both pros and top locals, the top locals have a better chance of an upset, than the same match at a pro event.

I experienced this myself playing at the FL Open. Kazakis left me a shot, and I ran the table to the 9. Got almost straight in and a foot away. I was saying to myself I’m going to draw first blood. Of course I missed it. I put a bit of outside like I have 1000 times before on that simple shot. The conditions made the whole shot different and I missed.

After that, I’m not as hard as I have been watching pros miss easy shots. It really can be a complete guessing game what the ball will do on brand new cloth.

 

[sjm]

As an aside, it looks like W10 is a combination of invitational and qualifiers? Reason why FSR couldn't play because he wasn't "invited" and did not go through the qualifier process. Did I get this right?

Yes, you have it right. FSR could have chosen to play in the W10 qualifying event. Neuhausen, also uninvited, did so and qualified, but FSR chose not to enter the qualifying event.