Planning My Gold Crown VII Purchase

What's with the afterthought 1 pocket racks?

I get that some people can spend their entire lives without playing the game and those cheap-ass racks should be easy enough to shitcan.
But really, that's the best they could come up with?
 
The ball "shelves" are shown 8 minutes into the video from the Expo. They certainly let you see the ball count a lot better than the old shelves which tend to hide balls.
Sure, just feel they could have done much better than the cheap wire rack.

But it is an option, so that was a wise move.
 
Sure, just feel they could have done much better than the cheap wire rack.

But it is an option, so that was a wise move.
The GC6 seems to have a single, continuous slot in the front skirt. No separator.

I imagine the original design had four slots to accommodate four-player games.
 
Move on one meaning when the time is right..availability . Not God but has my respect. I heard it from 2 people that know more than you or me. I’m sure it’s not junk but I’ll keep my Professional or look for a fully restored centerfold GC. My biggest concern would be the installation.
I agree on my biggest concern being the install. If this is truly a completely new build by Brunswick- what training will occur around the entire U.S. to insure that distributor install mechanics know this new table inside and out- literally. My take, as mentioned earlier, in visiting the local Brunswick dealer in Westport Ct is that they never even had a GC VI inside their showroom- much less be educated on how to properly install a totally revamped GC VII.

I would not think about this purchase without having full reassurance from Nick Baron himself via direct communication, as to who he would have install this table in my locale- and that would be only after he found a local place for me to actually play this table.

It is a large purchase, considering the table cost, adding in sales tax, Simonis cloth upgrade, proper room table light purchase, and possible install fees. - too large to be guessing, IMO.
 
I recommend looking for the right GCIV Tournament Edition. Maybe piano black or something really sharp. Pockets could be 4.75", and it was the best GC of the past, although I haven't played on the new ones. You could spend the extra $8500 on something else. I get I'm not telling you something you don't already know.

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Yes, I actually gave away my GCIV to the guy who bought my house when I moved South- it was immaculate. I will be looking at every option, this GC VII caught my eye today, did not know about it, and the upgrades seem interesting, but I'll need some very firm reassurances to move that much cash into a new model GC- agreed!
 
Yes, I actually gave away my GCIV to the guy who bought my house when I moved South- it was immaculate. I will be looking at every option, this GC VII caught my eye today, did not know about it, and the upgrades seem interesting, but I'll need some very firm reassurances to move that much cash into a new model GC- agreed!

Mike,
I cannot explain it. I don't know why. But I swear my Gold Crown IV just doesn't play good. It's not necessarily the break as balls seem to go in okay. It's just that I rarely seem to get a decent spread that can be run. Plus it just doesn't seem to have that feel that other Gold Crown tables I have played on - if you know what I mean. That includes Nick Varner's Gold Crown V that he has in his store down in Owensboro.

r/DCP
 
Mike,
I cannot explain it. I don't know why. But I swear my Gold Crown IV just doesn't play good. It's not necessarily the break as balls seem to go in okay. It's just that I rarely seem to get a decent spread that can be run. Plus it just doesn't seem to have that feel that other Gold Crown tables I have played on - if you know what I mean. That includes Nick Varner's Gold Crown V that he has in his store down in Owensboro.

r/DCP
My GCIV was supposedly directly out of a pro tournament - I could not verify that. It had big pockets- 4 7/8 and the speed off the rails was surprisingly a bit slow compared to the commercial room GCs that I was playing on at the time.

I have learned two things for sure after owning two different used home tables - never buy a used table until you actually play on it and don't buy a brand new table unless you have played on a very recent example of that exact model table. Secondly, make sure the installer knows more about pool playing and table play than just how to assemble a table. They need to understand your exact requirements on table play!

Used GC tables for home use can seem to play fast enough, even with new Simonis, to some installers who simply don't know or think you don't know; how fast more modern tables like Diamond and Rasson play. If one intends to compete from time to time on more modern tournament tables, a home GC needs to play at max speed, or you will show up in a commercial room thinking that you are playing on ice with no CB control!
 
I cannot explain it. I don't know why. But I swear my Gold Crown IV just doesn't play good. It's not necessarily the break as balls seem to go in okay. It's just that I rarely seem to get a decent spread that can be run. Plus it just doesn't seem to have that feel that other Gold Crown tables I have played on - if you know what I mean. That includes Nick Varner's Gold Crown V that he has in his store down in Owensboro.

Wasn't it you with the humidity problem?
 
I agree on my biggest concern being the install. If this is truly a completely new build by Brunswick- what training will occur around the entire U.S. to insure that distributor install mechanics know this new table inside and out- literally. My take, as mentioned earlier, in visiting the local Brunswick dealer in Westport Ct is that they never even had a GC VI inside their showroom- much less be educated on how to properly install a totally revamped GC VII.

I would not think about this purchase without having full reassurance from Nick Baron himself via direct communication, as to who he would have install this table in my locale- and that would be only after he found a local place for me to actually play this table.

It is a large purchase, considering the table cost, adding in sales tax, Simonis cloth upgrade, proper room table light purchase, and possible install fees. - too large to be guessing, IMO.
Had two installers say they can handle the new 7. I love the confidence having never done or seen one. Of course a 1st class mechanic can figure any table out.
 
Had two installers say they can handle the new 7. I love the confidence having never done or seen one. Of course a 1st class mechanic can figure any table out.
Without an installer ever seeing one, I would only trust a few here. There just are not many " 1st class "table mechanics. How many GC pocket conversions have I seen where the pockets were done all wrong- far to many- actually most. Same goes with new cushion replacements- one rail ends up fast, another slower, etc. etc.

I played recently on brand New Brunswick Black Wolf- just horrible install- either that, or the tables are completely off out of the box.
 
.... Same goes with new cushion replacements- one rail ends up fast, another slower, etc. etc. ...
A room here got some GCs recushioned and one of them ended up with low sections on some rails. Easy to launch a ball onto the neighboring table if you want to -- just bank hard.
 
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