SJM at the 2025 International Open

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Just spent ten days at the International Open in St Augustine, Florida. Here is what it was like.

Friday, November 14
Arrived 4:30 PM. Matches I saw were Morra’s one pocket win over Shuff and Pongers’ 14.1 win over Mario He. I caught up with a few pros briefly, but the only pro with whom I had a long chat was Fedor Gorst. The Bigfoot began with a weak field. Round 1 looked like a yawner.

Saturday, November 15
Breakfasted with Steve MacDonald of Diamond Billiards. It was a slow day in the tournament room. Lopsided matches in the Bigfoot were the norm, and the end of an embarrassing Round 1 mercifully came. The best 14.1 match was Mario He over Bob Madenjian. Meglino topped Shuff in one-pocket. Through two days, the International had produced few good matches.

Sunday, November 16
Round 2 of the Bigfoot offered the first tasty matchups. In a match neither deserved to win, Gorst and Sevastyonov both played poorly, and it was fittingly decided when Arseni mishit a kick at double hill but fluked a snooker that left Gorst so safe that there was almost no possible response. I have never believed that a close match is necessarily a good one, and this was an example of a close, terrible match. Oi vs Capito was exciting. Capito played poorly early, falling 7-1 behind. Capito caught a stroke, getting all the way to 9-7 before Oi’s break and run ended it. Biado dismissed Wolford and then Yapp shot the lights out against Corteza to advance. The 14.1 remained in round robin at end of day. Hall, Gomez and Meglino began to look like the ones to beat for the one-pocket title.

Monday, November 17
Breakfasted with Jeanette Lee. In the arena, the Bigfoot semi had Oi blowing out Sevastyonov. Biado and Yapp then had a good one, which went double hill. Biado scratched on the double hill break and Yapp negotiated a tricky rack for the win. In the final, Yapp was brilliant, dismissing Oi with relative ease. The 14.1 finished the round robin, and in the quarterfinals Pongers, Grabe and Zielinski advanced easily. The best quarterfinal was Hohmann vs He, and Thorsten prevailed with solid play in the late stages. One pocket played down to four: Hall, Ruuger, Gomez and Meglino.

Tuesday, November 18
Breakfasted with Mike Sigel. In the arena came the business end of the 14.1 event. Grabe vs Pongers was up first, and it was close most of the way, but it was Grabe who prevailed. In the other semi, Hohmann beat Zielinski with relative ease. In the final, it was vintage Hohmann topping Grabe for the title.

Mike Sigel, Billy Incardona, Sammy Jones and I probably traded war stories for at least an hour after the match, most of the discussions focusing on the years from 1980-94, which we all seemed to remember very well. An amusing moment came when Sigel spoke of one time he beat Earl in an action match in South Carolina circa 1981 and Billy had to correct him saying “I was your backer in that one and we broke even!”

The Fargo 650 and under 9ball began. I saw nearly none of it. One pocket had the day off.

Wednesday, November 19
The first one-pocket semi was a dandy between Ruuger and Hall. Ruuger led 2-1 and despite trailing 6 balls to 4, had a big positional advantage in Rack 4. He squandered his entire advantage with one poor shot, and it cost him the rack, and soon after that, the match, with Hall advancing to the final. In the second semi, Gomez was too much for Meglino. The final was a classic. Hall had a chance to close it out in rack three, but when he failed, the match continued and ended up going double hill. In the case rack, Gomez and Hall played a memorable safety battle with Gomez ahead 7-6. Gomez prevailed to win the title.

Pro 9ball began but the field was not deep, with a lot of dead money, and some even deader money, so Round 1 offered few good matchups. Surely the most entertaining match of the day was Shuff vs Thorpe, which reached double hill. Billy hooked himself on the 6ball but jumped it in. Still, he was not up to a challenging 7ball, and Shuff prevailed.

Thursday, November 20
Breakfasted with Payne McBride, the promising American teenager. The morning matches did not offer much great pool, but the afternoon produced a dandy in Sossei vs Thorpe. As had happened on Wednesday night, however, after a fine double hill shot on the 6ball, Billy made an error on the seven, so Sossei prevailed. The best match of the late session was a gem between Biado and Hennessee. The quality of the play in the closing racks was breathtaking, and the match came down to an electrifying double hill safety battle, ultimately won by Biado, securing the victory. Lukas Verner remained on the winner’s side with a nice win over Mario He.

Friday, November 21
The early pro 9ball session, all loser bracket affairs, was excellent. Ussery was too much for Morra, and Eric Roberts had a nice win. Meglino played well to top Capito. Austrian Mario He rallied from behind to top Donny Mills. The afternoon session brought the field down to 24 and these eight had already qualified for single elimination: Gorst, Oi, Atencio, FSR, Yapp, Woodward, Zielinski, and Hohmann. The night session brought the loser qualification round and these eight qualified: Rivas, Souto, Styer, Martinez, Loukatos, Kazakis, Krause and Grabe. The real story of the evening session was the elimination of both SVB and Biado, at the hands of Krause and Martinez respectively. Young American Eric Roberts came within a rack of Stage 2, losing a double hill heartbreaker to Souto.

Saturday, November 22
In early play, Spaniards Souto and FSR breezed to the quarterfinals, and Atencio won a tight one over Styer, but the real story was Rivas beating Gorst. Next up was the BCA Hall of Fame dinner with Carlo Biado enshrined and, after being introduced by his wife, he spoke well. After dinner came the quarterfinals. Zielinski, FSR and Souto advanced comfortably but Yapp vs Woodward was a well-played dogfight that came down to a double hill rack in which both players had a ball in hand, as Yapp prevailed.

Sunday, November 23
It was time to crown a champion. In the first semi, it was Spain vs Spain, as FSR topped Souto. In the second semi, Yapp won easily over Zielinski. The final was a beauty, with Yapp narrowly prevailing over a very solid FSR. Well played and that’s three in a row for Yapp.

Socially
I was pleased to hang out a bit with AZB regulars BBB and Jason. I caught up with some old friends, including Don Wardell and George Breedlove, neither of whom I had seen before in 2025. I spent a lot of time with old friends Mike Sigel and Billy Incardona, and was pleased to catch up with Sammy Jones and Jerry Briesath. Katie and Darlene, two close friends from Chicago, were present for the final three days of the event, and that was great. I was happy to sweat a few matches with my friend Mike from Jacksonville. I went out to dinner just twice in ten days.

So How Did It Go Overall?
To be fair, the event was a slight disappointment.

The setup of the tournament room was superb, as has always been the case at the International. Still, overhead scoreboards malfunctioned on numerous occasions, which was very frustrating.

Field size and depth in the pro events disappointed. The main reasons, in my opinion: a) the Predator event in Spain caused many top Europeans to skip it, b) five top Europeans were in Scotland training for the Mosconi, and c) player burnout, as the top pros just got home from two months hopping from country to country in Asia.

The pace was glacial. The 14.1 had 20 players, four groups of five. Each player had to play four matches to complete round robin, yet that took four days. Participants played an average of one round robin match per day. One pocket was a little better, but the matches were, similarly, too spaced in the schedule. Once pro 9ball began, sessions alternated between the 650 Fargo event and the pro event, so the pace of the pro event was lethargic until the last couple of days, when it was pretty much pro 9-ball only.

The Renaissance Hotel offered few shops and amenities. Other than at breakfast, food offerings were mediocre. In the tournament area, there was a tiny snack bar that helped you order food in, so that helped. There was also a small buffet that was nice but it did not begin until day 7.

Comparing this to August’s Florida Open, this did not fit in as well with the US pool calendar. The summer had offered, in consecutive weeks, a) Rally in the Valley, b) Florida Open, c) Battle of the Bull, and d) US Open 9ball. Each offered good prize money, and Europeans and Asians showed up in droves for that four-week fiesta. Increasingly, overseas-based players are not showing up to American events unless they can play in a series of events.

To sum, at ten days long, this event is just too long and there was just not enough pro pool played. By my estimate, fewer than 500 pro matches were contested over the ten-day event. By comparison, Derby City, also a ten-day event, offers closer to 2,500 pro event matches.

On the positive side, however, the event built to a crescendo and the last couple of days offered some very exciting pool. I am grateful for this event and I am glad I went but, at times, it was a bit of a drag.

Thanks to Pat Fleming and his team for all their hard work in staging the event. It is always my pleasure to support his events.
 
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Ten days! Man, that's a lot of pool right there. Hope you're back enjoying the amenities of Home Sweet Home. Great writeup which sums up the event nicely.

American pool thrives when we back the people who keep it alive. One of the best things about the International Open is the opportunity it gives every player. Whether you’re a seasoned competitor or a recreational shooter who loves the game, there’s something special about rubbing shoulders with the pros, sharing the same arena, and maybe even taking your own shot at greatness.

Supporting events like this matters. Whether you tune in online, subscribe to a live stream, come out in person, or even take a walk on the wild side and sign up to compete with the world beaters, every bit of support helps keep American pool moving forward. Here's to Pat Fleming, the players, and everyone who keeps this sport going, to include you, Stu.
 
Great write up stu
it was great to meet you and I will be practicing that shot you showed me👍
 
Just spent ten days at the International Open in St Augustine, Florida. Here is what it was like.

Friday, November 14
Arrived 4:30 PM. Matches I saw were Morra’s one pocket win over Shuff and Pongers’ 14.1 win over Mario He. I caught up with a few pros briefly, but the only pro with whom I had a long chat was Fedor Gorst. The Bigfoot began with a weak field. Round 1 looked like a yawner.

Saturday, November 15
Breakfasted with Steve MacDonald of Diamond Billiards. It was a slow day in the tournament room. Lopsided matches in the Bigfoot were the norm, and the end of an embarrassing Round 1 mercifully came. The best 14.1 match was Mario He over Bob Madenjian. Meglino topped Shuff in one-pocket. Through two days, the International had produced few good matches.

Sunday, November 16
Round 2 of the Bigfoot offered the first tasty matchups. In a match neither deserved to win, Gorst and Sevastyonov both played poorly, and it was fittingly decided when Arseni mishit a kick at double hill but fluked a snooker that left Gorst so safe that there was almost no possible response. I have never believed that a close match is necessarily a good one, and this was an example of a close, terrible match. Oi vs Capito was exciting. Capito played poorly early, falling 7-1 behind. Capito caught a stroke, getting all the way to 9-7 before Oi’s break and run ended it. Biado dismissed Wolford and then Yapp shot the lights out against Corteza to advance. The 14.1 remained in round robin at end of day. Hall, Gomez and Meglino began to look like the ones to beat for the one-pocket title.

Monday, November 17
Breakfasted with Jeanette Lee. In the arena, the Bigfoot semi had Oi blowing out Sevastyonov. Biado and Yapp then had a good one, which went double hill. Biado scratched on the double hill break and Yapp negotiated a tricky rack for the win. In the final, Yapp was brilliant, dismissing Oi with relative ease. The 14.1 finished the round robin, and in the quarterfinals Pongers, Grabe and Zielinski advanced easily. The best quarterfinal was Hohmann vs He, and Thorsten prevailed with solid play in the late stages. One pocket played down to four: Hall, Ruuger, Gomez and Meglino.

Tuesday, November 18
Breakfasted with Mike Sigel. In the arena came the business end of the 14.1 event. Grabe vs Pongers was up first, and it was close most of the way, but it was Grabe who prevailed. In the other semi, Hohmann beat Zielinski with relative ease. In the final, it was vintage Hohmann topping Grabe for the title.

Mike Sigel, Billy Incardona, Sammy Jones and I probably traded war stories for at least an hour after the match, most of the discussions focusing on the years from 1980-94, which we all seemed to remember very well. An amusing moment came when Sigel spoke of one time he beat Earl in an action match in South Carolina circa 1981 and Billy had to correct him saying “I was your backer in that one and we broke even!”

The Fargo 650 and under 9ball began. I saw nearly none of it. One pocket had the day off.

Wednesday, November 19
The first one-pocket semi was a dandy between Ruuger and Hall. Ruuger led 2-1 and despite trailing 6 balls to 4, had a big positional advantage in Rack 4. He squandered his entire advantage with one poor shot, and it cost him the rack, and soon after that, the match, with Hall advancing to the final. In the second semi, Gomez was too much for Meglino. The final was a classic. Hall had a chance to close it out in rack three, but when he failed, the match continued and ended up going double hill. In the case rack, Gomez and Hall played a memorable safety battle with Gomez ahead 7-6. Gomez prevailed to win the title.

Pro 9ball began but the field was not deep, with a lot of dead money, and some even deader money, so Round 1 offered few good matchups. Surely the most entertaining match of the day was Shuff vs Thorpe, which reached double hill. Billy hooked himself on the 6ball but jumped it in. Still, he was not up to a challenging 7ball, and Shuff prevailed.

Thursday, November 20
Breakfasted with Payne McBride, the promising American teenager. The morning matches did not offer much great pool, but the afternoon produced a dandy in Sossei vs Thorpe. As had happened on Wednesday night, however, after a fine double hill shot on the 6ball, Billy made an error on the seven, so Sossei prevailed. The best match of the late session was a gem between Biado and Hennessee. The quality of the play in the closing racks was breathtaking, and the match came down to an electrifying double hill safety battle, ultimately won by Biado, securing the victory. Lukas Verner remained on the winner’s side with a nice win over Mario He.

Friday, November 21
The early pro 9ball session, all loser bracket affairs, was excellent. Ussery was too much for Morra, and Eric Roberts had a nice win. Meglino played well to top Capito. Austrian Mario He rallied from behind to top Donny Mills. The afternoon session brought the field down to 24 and these eight had already qualified for single elimination: Gorst, Oi, Atencio, FSR, Yapp, Woodward, Zielinski, and Hohmann. The night session brought the loser qualification round and these eight qualified: Rivas, Souto, Styer, Martinez, Loukatos, Kazakis, Krause and Grabe. The real story of the evening session was the elimination of both SVB and Biado, at the hands of Krause and Martinez respectively. Young American Eric Roberts came within a rack of Stage 2, losing a double hill heartbreaker to Souto.

Saturday, November 22
In early play, Spaniards Souto and FSR breezed to the quarterfinals, and Atencio won a tight one over Styer, but the real story was Rivas beating Gorst. In the next session. … Next up was the BCA Hall of Fame dinner with Carlo Biado enshrined and, after being introduced by his wife, he spoke well. After dinner came the quarterfinals. Zielinski, FSR and Souto advanced comfortably but Yapp vs Woodward was a well-played dogfight that came down to a double hill rack in which both players had a ball in hand, but Yapp prevailed.

Sunday, November 23
It was time to crown a champion. In the first semi, it was Spain vs Spain, as FSR topped Souto. In the second semi, Yapp won easily over Zielinsaki. The final was a beauty, with Yapp narrowly prevailing over a very solid FSR. Well played and that’s three in a row for Yapp.

Socially
I was pleased to hang out a bit with AZB regulars BBB and Jason. I caught up with some old friends, including Don Wardell and George Breedlove, neither of whom I had seen before in 2025. I spent a lot of time with old friends Mike Sigel and Billy Incardona, and was pleased to catch up with Sammy Jones and Jerry Briesath. Katie and Darlene, two close friends from Chicago, were present for the final three days of the event, and that was great. I was happy to sweat a few matches with my friend Mike from Jacksonville. I went out to dinner just twice in ten days.

So How Did It Go Overall?
To be fair, the event was a slight disappointment.

The setup of the tournament room was superb, as has always been the case at the International. Still, overhead scoreboards malfunctioned on numerous occasions, which was very frustrating.

Field size and depth in the pro events disappointed. The main reasons, in my opinion: a) the Predator event in Spain caused many top Europeans to skip it, b) five top Europeans were in Scotland training for the Mosconi, and c) player burnout, as the top pros just got home from two months hopping from country to country in Asia.

The pace was glacial. The 14.1 had 20 players, four groups of five. Each player had to play four matches to complete round robin, yet that took four days. Participants played an average of one round robin match per day. One pocket was a little better, but the matches were, similarly, too spaced in the schedule. Once pro 9ball began, sessions alternated between the 650 Fargo event and the pro event, so the pace of the pro event was lethargic until the last couple of days, when it was pretty much pro 9-ball only.

The Renaissance Hotel offered few shops and amenities. Other than at breakfast, food offerings were mediocre. In the tournament area, there was a tiny snack bar that helped you order food in, so that helped. There was also a small buffet that was nice but it did not begin until day 7.

Comparing this to August’s Florida Open, this did not fit in as well with the US pool calendar. The summer had offered, in consecutive weeks, a) Rally in the Valley, b) Florida Open, c) Battle of the Bull, and d) US Open 9ball. Each offered good prize money, and Europeans and Asians showed up in droves for that four-week fiesta. Increasingly, overseas-based players are not showing up to American events unless they can play in a series of events.

To sum, at ten days long, this event is just too long and there was just not enough pro pool played. By my estimate, fewer than 500 pro matches were contested over the ten-day event. By comparison, Derby City, also a ten-day event, offers closer to 2,500 pro event matches.

On the positive side, however, the event built to a crescendo and the last couple of days offered some very exciting pool. I am grateful for this event and I am glad I went but, at times, it was a bit of a drag.

Thanks to Pat Fleming and his team for all their hard work in staging the event. It is always my pleasure to support his events.

Great account and thanks!
 
Great write-up Stu!
I watched the YouTube live feeds for a couple matches, and I liked seeing the people sitting in Skyler's corner during his match. Looked like almost the whole Mosconi team there. That was a good match, with both players having nearly flawless performances, but Yapp was the one that moved forward.
I've been a fan of Yapp ever since that time foul thing with Shane in 2021, and it's good to see him do well.
Saw you sitting up there past the kitchen in the live feed of the final on Youtube. I pointed you out to my girlfriend, and reminded her of when we met you at Turning Stone.
Thanks for taking the time to put all that together.
 
Thx for the write up.... well explained perspective of ''the moment''.
With the world now involved in pro nine ball events, this is a major long term concern for Pat.
I think he might have to make a big change.... Or just do a Smaller production.

Your below post Stu...... made matters very clear.

''Field size and depth in the pro events disappointed.
The main reasons, in my opinion: a) the Predator event in Spain caused many top Europeans to skip it.
b) five top Europeans were in Scotland training for the Mosconi.
C) player burnout, as the top pros just got home from two months hopping from country to country in Asia.

Pat will have to look at the world events from now on to find His Spot on the calendar.
I think his best bet might be this.
Wait till he knows what MR is going to do in 2026 with the US Open 9 ball.
I don't know if Pat has the connections in TX like he does on the Atlantic coast.
 
An amusing moment came when Sigel spoke of one time he beat Earl in an action match in South Carolina circa 1981 and Billy had to correct him saying “I was your backer in that one and we broke even!”
This three day money match was covered in part 4 of a recent 'Legends of the Cue' podcast with Billy. A must listen for those who have not heard it. https://www.legendsofthecue.com/bil...s-hustlers-and-the-making-of-a-champion-mind/

One of the best parts of the story was Billy interjecting with his impression of Earl.

He is far and away my favorite Accu Stats commentator and I could listen to him tell stories for days. Articulate, knowledgeable, great sense of humor and likeable.

As a side note, I think many of us would love to hear SJM on a future podcast telling his pool-life story.
 
Just spent ten days at the International Open in St Augustine, Florida. Here is what it was like.
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To sum, at ten days long, this event is just too long and there was just not enough pro pool played. By my estimate, fewer than 500 pro matches were contested over the ten-day event. ...
Always good to read your recap and analysis, Stu. As for the number of matches played in the 4 pro events, after deducting no-shows/forfeits:

Bigfoot 10-Ball -- 15
14.1 -- 47
1-Pkt. -- 99
9-Ball -- 193

Total -- 354
 
Ten days! Man, that's a lot of pool right there. Hope you're back enjoying the amenities of Home Sweet Home. Great writeup which sums up the event nicely.

American pool thrives when we back the people who keep it alive. One of the best things about the International Open is the opportunity it gives every player. Whether you’re a seasoned competitor or a recreational shooter who loves the game, there’s something special about rubbing shoulders with the pros, sharing the same arena, and maybe even taking your own shot at greatness.

Supporting events like this matters. Whether you tune in online, subscribe to a live stream, come out in person, or even take a walk on the wild side and sign up to compete with the world beaters, every bit of support helps keep American pool moving forward. Here's to Pat Fleming, the players, and everyone who keeps this sport going, to include you, Stu.
Well said. Pat Fleming is an incredibly positive force in American pool and it is my every intention to continue supporting anything and everything he produces.
 
great read!

who was the last one to triple a 30k+ event? svb?
Has to be Shane's three US Open 9ball titles in a row. Earlier this year, Filler had a chance to make it three straight China Opens but could not pull it off.

Three in a row of anything is a minor miracle. Shaw won Turning Stone three times in a row, but it is not a big money event. At Derby City two months from now, Gorst will try to make it three Derby City one-pocket titles in a row and Filler will try to make it three straight Derby City 9ball titles. I'm looking forward to seeing if either is able to pull of the unlikely triple. Incredibly, Efren won four consecutive one-pocket titles in a row at Derby City years ago.

I think Yapp winning the 10ball and the 9ball at the same event is something special, too. It was last accomplished by Filler at the 2024 Derby City Classic.
 
A very touching moment came at the BCA Hall of Fame dinner. This year, we lost four BCA hall of famers in Buddy Hall, Danny DiLiberto, Terry Bell and Mika Immonen, and a video tribute to the four of them was shown that brought more than a few of us to tears. Add to this that we lost JL Chang and Truman Hogue this year, and it must be said that 2025 broke our collective hearts. RIP to six legends.
 
I really wonder what the future of this event will be (if at all) post-Pat. I still think of it as a continuity of the original lineage of the US Open before it went to Matchroom. But in that way it feels like a time capsule to an earlier era. It's impressive it continues on and pulls the prize fund it does. As a broadcast-consumer of the event, I really feel like it is an event that desperately needs to modernize and stubbornly refuses to do so.
 
I really wonder what the future of this event will be (if at all) post-Pat. I still think of it as a continuity of the original lineage of the US Open before it went to Matchroom. But in that way it feels like a time capsule to an earlier era. It's impressive it continues on and pulls the prize fund it does. As a broadcast-consumer of the event, I really feel like it is an event that desperately needs to modernize and stubbornly refuses to do so.

my thoughts exactly. maybe admin mike has ideas. i mean pro pool is booming, hopefully with the right sponsors the event can improve and be lucrative
 
I really wonder what the future of this event will be (if at all) post-Pat. I still think of it as a continuity of the original lineage of the US Open before it went to Matchroom. But in that way it feels like a time capsule to an earlier era. It's impressive it continues on and pulls the prize fund it does. As a broadcast-consumer of the event, I really feel like it is an event that desperately needs to modernize and stubbornly refuses to do so.
We'll see how their TX US Open 9 Ball rumor plays out.
 
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