Rhino MUST

[muskyed]

Did you get the 30" shaft?

Thought that's all they made, now you have me scared, I'll have to go look. Their shafts never were 30" actually, they were 29 5/8". They always advertised them as 30", but that was with the tip.
Ha, I had to go down and check, 29 13/16" to base of tip, about a 1/4" longer than my other Radial Rhino carbon. I'm going to have to mark that down on my cheat sheet for my halter monitor I'm wearing for a few days, as it probably put my heart rate up a spike ha, ha. They've been running me through a ton of tests lately, hopefully they finally make a decision Tuesday on what they are doing.

 

[j2pac]

Thought that's all they made, now you have me scared, I'll have to go look. Their shafts never were 30" actually, they were 29 5/8". They always advertised them as 30", but that was with the tip.
Ha, I had to go down and check, 29 13/16" to base of tip, about a 1/4" longer than my other Radial Rhino carbon. I'm going to have to mark that down on my cheat sheet for my halter monitor I'm wearing for a few days, as it probably put my heart rate up a spike ha, ha. They've been running me through a ton of tests lately, hopefully they finally make a decision Tuesday on what they are doing.

I believe they will make a 29" shaft by request. Hope your physical ailments get sorted.
Keep us posted.

 

[skor]

Rhino sent me a follow-up regarding construction. As i/we thought its does use a flag-wrap style construction. Said it uses multiple layers of various strength cf sheets wrapped on a mandrel. Folks if you ever have quest. to ask just msg them, they respond very quickly.

I believe that all CF shafts are made this way, you can actually see the seam along the shafts under a strong light.
This method is actually better for cue shafts as the tube is smoother.
It is also costs more to produce as it is less automated and requires professional labor.

 

[garczar]

I believe that all CF shafts are made this way, you can actually see the seam along the shafts under a strong light.
This method is actually better for cue shafts as the tube is smoother.
It is also costs more to produce as it is less automated and requires professional labor.

No, not true. Most of the higher-end shafts are filament-wound where individual strands are spun onto the mandrel under computer control. This process yields a seamless tube with a more consistent structure. I don't think anyone could tell by playing how the tube was made. Some pics of various types of fw equip: https://www.google.com/search?clien...TgNDEUQtKgLegQIFRAB&biw=1408&bih=653&dpr=1.36

 

[muskyed]

There won't be a seam showing if it is filament wound. In arrow shafts that really need a consistent spine, all better ones will be filament wound. With wrapped arrow shafts, you would need to spine test first before fletching.
Is a small difference in spine of a pool shaft important, maybe, maybe not. I just went and looked at the Rhino Must shaft I have and the 3 other Rhino shafts we have, no visible seam on any of them. I had a Jacoby 3,2 Black shaft for awhile and that had a visible seam, so obvously there are more important things involved as to just how it is all wrapped.
Also I'll go down later today and measure out the taper of the Must and regular carbon Rhino shafts, and that will be the end of what I am able to tell you all about them.

 

[garczar]

There won't be a seam showing if it is filament wound. In arrow shafts that really need a consistent spine, all better ones will be filament wound. With wrapped arrow shafts, you would need to spine test first before fletching.
Is a small difference in spine of a pool shaft important, maybe, maybe not. I just went and looked at the Rhino Must shaft I have and the 3 other Rhino shafts we have, no visible seam on any of them. I had a Jacoby 3,2 Black shaft for awhile and that had a visible seam, so obvously there are more important things involved as to just how it is all wrapped.
Also I'll go down later today and measure out the taper of the Must and regular carbon Rhino shafts, and that will be the end of what I am able to tell you all about them.

I'd bet pretty good $ that no one could tell how a cf shaft is made just by using it. Flag-wrapping is still common in smaller diameter tubes( like cues) where FW is mostly used for bigger stuff. Just my $.02 here but i think filament-wound shafts are more of a sales gimmick than anything else. Co's can push the 'this is better' campaign and charge a lot more for them. We all know that LOTS of players are complete tech suckers who will hoover-up anything they think will make them better.

 

[SeniorTom]

limited pin sizes

 

[muskyed]

Ok, my last bit of info, definitely different taper, this is all I've got.

Must shaft 12.5 mm Regular Rhino 12.5 mm
End of shaft, not on ferrule 12.48 mm 12.54 mm
2" 12.65 mm 12.52 mm
4" 12.79 mm 12.51 mm
6" 12.90 mm 12.51 mm
8" 13.10 mm 12.48 mm
10" 13.18 mm 12.48 mm
12" 13.35 mm 12.60 mm
14" 13.95 mm 12.76 mm
Edit, not sure why they didn't separate, you'll figure it out.

 

[garczar]

Ok, my last bit of info, definitely different taper, this is all I've got.

Must shaft 12.5 mm Regular Rhino 12.5 mm
End of shaft, not on ferrule 12.48 mm 12.54 mm
2" 12.65 mm 12.52 mm
4" 12.79 mm 12.51 mm
6" 12.90 mm 12.51 mm
8" 13.10 mm 12.48 mm
10" 13.18 mm 12.48 mm
12" 13.35 mm 12.60 mm
14" 13.95 mm 12.76 mm
Edit, not sure why they didn't separate, you'll figure it out.

Its still under 13.5mm at the 12" mark. Not as skinny as the standard but still no issues as far as taper growth goes. My wag is that since they lightened the front-end for lower defl. they backed it up with a little stouter build.