Dominguez vs Guama race to 50 for 80+ per side
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I agree in part, but I hope Guama isn't looking for an escape. I would guess he's already paid. I do think it was a bit presumptuous to fix a table that isn't yours without asking someone first. Even if it needs it. Still not cheating.
Bottom line, Oscar won. He played great. As always, he showed a lot of grit. He is owed his money.
The sad part about all of this is if he doesn't get his money, absolutely nothing will happen.
Just like when Archer stiffed him.
Pool is a joke lol.
Yep, these big 'in the middle' matches get pretty convoluted when it comes to keeping the bets square.
As it wasn’t Oscar’s poolroom, I’d be surprised if he had the proper tools with him and worked on tightening the rail bolts without the advanced consent of the owner/manager. If there were some missing rail bolts as he claimed there were, I would be even more surprised if he happened to have extra rail bolts with him to use.
It’s hard to fathom that a first rate poolroom like Brass Tap would have Diamond or Gold Crown tables that had missing rail bolts. That would certainly never happen when Tony Coates was the owner.
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If you started messing with the bolts during warm-up at Matchroom or Pro Billiards Series, that would get you disqualified. See no reason why here would be different.
I am very disappointed in Oscar. His reputation is good but this is unacceptable. The agreement was clear - Oscar gets an even race against 50 pts worse player under the condition he plays on a foreign table. He violated and winnings are forfeited.
I am very disappointed in Oscar. His reputation is good but this is unacceptable. The agreement was clear - Oscar gets an even race against 50 pts worse player under the condition he plays on a foreign table. He violated and winnings are forfeited.
This sort of reminds me of TAR 5 or 6... Mika vs Shane race to 100. Shane's first "real" test, once the rest of the world outside his hometown knew how good he really was, after torturing Corey and Earl. The deal was that the match would be played on a specific table, that had cloth a couple months old or so. A day or two before the event, the cloth was changed. Mika was furious. I don't recall it had anything to do with Shane, I think the promoter or the room owner did it on their own. But I do recall Shane found it funny, and Mika almost cancelled over it. Does anyone remember more/better?
I have another one... Russel Parsons, from DE, was a huge fish in the old days, but he was a legit pro, maybe 750 in his prime (the 80's). He owned a pool room for about 10 years in the 90's. There was an even bigger fish that came in, a B player, maybe 600 by today's standards. He'd routinely loose a few thousand to Russel getting a huge spot, such as the orange crush, etc.
Anyway, the fish hated playing on a specific table. I forgot the reason, he just hated the rails or the pocket or whatever, and said to Russell he'd never play on that table again. Russel had the tops switched on the tables right before the fish came in. So when they next played, the fish was playing on the top he hated, without realizing it.
Anyway, the fish hated playing on a specific table. I forgot the reason, he just hated the rails or the pocket or whatever, and said to Russell he'd never play on that table again. Russel had the tops switched on the tables right before the fish came in. So when they next played, the fish was playing on the top he hated, without realizing it.
Please can the drama. Tightening loose rail bolts did not determine the winner here. Did you watch any of it? Oscar clearly outplayed the guy. BTW, OD has worked on tables since he was about 10yrs old and he knows more about them than anyone in that room. Tightening loose bolts is no grounds for forfeit. Again, can the drama.
Pool is funny
I’m sure Guama, along with everyone and their mother, were aware Oscar touched the table. Why didn’t he refuse to play or adjust?
It’s a way out.
You need an attorney and heavy artillery to play big today. Oscar is better off at home playing for 50/100.
It’s a way out.
You need an attorney and heavy artillery to play big today. Oscar is better off at home playing for 50/100.
Yes, like a stuccoed toilet seat.
Can you imagine? Binding contracts, big claims court, Trump could be world champion.
Oscar's new tag line: Have rail bolts, will travel!
Imagine a boatload.
They'd hellfire that. Foul. No pay.
I would assume fair play from Oscar but also find it shocking anyone would take tools to an action table for any reason at all without full disclosure to all parties. If you don’t want suspicion cast your way then don’t do things suspiciously.
anyone that doesn't freeze up the money almost deserves what he gets. that is plain stupid.
as far as anyone touching the table with tools before that match makes it a valid claim for cheating or at least altering the table.
if he told his opponent and he then agreed to play then, that's a new deal and valid. if not then a person may be justified in not paying.
suspecting he was cheated or defrauded. whether intentional or not. you just don't do something like that.
but if he knew and played then he owes, otherwise he had a freeroll.
doesnt matter how bad or good anyone played.
as far as anyone touching the table with tools before that match makes it a valid claim for cheating or at least altering the table.
if he told his opponent and he then agreed to play then, that's a new deal and valid. if not then a person may be justified in not paying.
suspecting he was cheated or defrauded. whether intentional or not. you just don't do something like that.
but if he knew and played then he owes, otherwise he had a freeroll.
doesnt matter how bad or good anyone played.