Sneaky Pete Cues ……

What surprises me is there are cue makers that can see there’s interest in SP cues, and for discussion sake only
let’s put a price of $500 or less, but no one has expressed interest in tackling this. I’d make a limited run of SP cues
if I was a cue maker. I’d call them SPAZ cues and limit the first attempt to 25 cues (numbered) and set a max. price of under $600 delivered. I would make the cues look distinctively handsome but without being fancy. The customer should be able to specify the weight, shaft size and taper. And for production consistency, I suppose the joints all should be the same. My preference is a big pin wood to wood but whatever the cue maker preferred would probably be fine. The cue maker needs to match shafts that have a weight of at least 3.75 ozs but nothing lighter. A good weight is at least 4 ozs. and obviously a really thin diameter shaft would weigh less. The cue maker needs to be able to use seasoned wood which could be why this idea never got off the ground. When I was discussing this with Jerry R., that wasn’t going to be a problem and the price we had been kicking around was under $1k for a ltd. run of 12 cues. Know what? Sooner or later I hope some ambitious cue maker will see this as a great way to call attention to their cue making even though it’s only a SP style. With the right wood choices and finish, the SP cues could turn out to be very handsome.
 
Martin, I spoke to a cue maker I’ve used before and he essentially said what you explained.
It’s more practical for him to build a players design with simple points & veneers sans inlays.

Sneaky Pete cues tend to interrupt his established routine in his shop for building custom cues.
I’m sure there can’t be much profit realized on a SP cue and so what he explained made sense.

When I was discussing this idea with Jerry Rauenzahn, the approach was to build a genuine SP cue
without any fancy rings, veneers or inlays. The cue would be a road/league cue for prior customers.

The SP cues would be offered only to Jerry’s former clients rather than a brand new customer. It was
a way of showing appreciation for their prior patronage and rewarding them with something different.

I would have been thrilled to own a SP cue made by Jerry Rauenzahn. There aren’t any I’ve ever seen
or even heard existed. The cue would be numbered in a limited production run but It never got off the
ground. Jerry was thinking about retiring at that time and was really busy completing new cue orders.

Matt
Sorry for replying so long after the initial post. See my post about my plain-jane Rauenzahn cue from a few years ago. There are pictures on there. My cue is not numbered or signed or anything. I still have it. https://forums.azbilliards.com/threads/question-about-an-ordinary-looking-rauenzahn-cue.525398/ I don't know if what I have is what you had in mind. :)
 
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Sorry for replying so long after the initial post. See my post about my plain-jane Rauenzahn cue from a few years ago. There are pictures on there. My cue is not numbered or signed or anything. I still have it. https://forums.azbilliards.com/threads/question-about-an-ordinary-looking-rauenzahn-cue.525398/ I don't know if what I have is what you had in mind. :)
That cue isn’t what I imagine when I think of SP cue designs. It seems more like a Merry Widow design, IMO.
 
A not so Sneaky Pete by Murray Tucker. One of the first five cues he ever made.

I think he probably made less than 75 cues in total before he retired.


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They say Murray Tuckers are harder to get than Searings, so mix it up a bit and put a Dennis Searing shaft on it and have the best of both worlds.

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That cue isn’t what I imagine when I think of SP cue designs. It seems more like a Merry Widow design, IMO.
Ok, I thought the terms were interchangeable. I researched and found that merry widow butts are made from one piece of wood while sneaky petes have the 4-point arrow design made from multiple pieces of wood. Mine is definitely a merry widow then. --Bill
 
Ok, I thought the terms were interchangeable. I researched and found that merry widow butts are made from one piece of wood while sneaky petes have the 4-point arrow design made from multiple pieces of wood. Mine is definitely a merry widow then. --Bill
WAAAY back when a true mw was a one piece butt but today any plane jane(not a fs cue) is considered a mw. Some are wrapped, some unwrapped.
 
I wanted a cue to leave in my car in case I got out of work early enough to hit the pool hall before heading home. I bought an Imperial Sneaky Pete on EBay for $40. Back then, they had a pro taper shaft. I put a good tip on, (I think Precision, but it was a while back). and I felt that I really didn't lose anything playing with it (C player on a good day, LOL). I did buy another one later on to possibly gift to a friend if the cue I already gave him had a problem. It never did so I still have it. The amazing thing is I had this cue in my trunk (04 Civic) for years here in Florida with no warpage. The funniest part is I had the drains for the sunroof leaking into the trunk, unknown to me at the time, so not only was the cue baking in the sun, it was subjected to a ton of humidity. It did develop a slight roll around the 8 year mark. The Imperial Petes on Ebay currently look different, so they may have switched manufacturers. Check to see if they are pro taper before you buy one.
 
There are still some well-known cuemakers that will convert a house cue, as well as newer makers.
Can't speak for all makers but i'ved talked to few that will do it for friends/repeat clients but not as a general offering. As black-balled said its often regarded as below their talent level to chop/finish a house cue. I had a fairly well known guy do one for me yrs ago but he wouldn't put his name/logo on it.
 
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