DERBY CITY CLASSIC DRESS CODE

Merrill Lynch, Fidelity, Goldman Sachs, NIke, Dockers, Levi, Puma, ESPN, ESPN3, ESPN OCHO, FanDuel, Destination America, Discovery, Fuse, ion television, local cable access...all of them

don't look.

They may not ever look because we are dressed better than man-children-basement-dwellers, but if someone ever does look, it would be nice if we were dressed better than man-children-basement-dwellers.

Kollegedave
What decade do you live in???? Dockers is deader than Elvis. I SERIOUSLY doubt ANYONE at ANY of these co's even know pool exists. 'Maybe' ESPN but they gave up on pool years ago. Look at snow-boarders/skateboarders, they aren't fashion icons by any stretch yet they are on both tv and on-line streams. I'll take a lil grunge over those goofy ass StarTrek pool jerseys ANY day.
 
A couple of thoughts.

First, if pool wants more money injected into the sport they need TV. There was an article not long ago in a major newspaper about how, with so many streaming platforms nowadays, they were all looking for smaller, niche sports to air.

Second, if pool wants some of that, players can’t be looking like they’re all homeless. There has to be some semblance of professionalism. Truth be told, how many of the players looked at what is one of the sport’s biggest events, leaves much to be desired by any standard.

Lastly, late last year I competed in Pat Fleming’s International Open. There was a dress code and I decided “why not” and had a couple of nice polos made up with sponsor logos and my name and an American flag on the back. I paired them with some nice lightweight slacks. The event was held at a big golf venue and, as you might expect, golfers were everywhere dressed like you would expect golfers at a nice club to dress.

And there were the pool players, all looking pretty decent due to the dress code. You’d be on the grounds, in elevators, the bar and didn’t feel like crawling under a rock when they saw your case over your shoulder and asked what was going on.

Actually made me feel good to be a pool player and tell them about the event.

Lou Figueroa
 
addressed to no one here in particular.:

private event has every right to make a dress code if it wants and should within reason.

the being in the public part of it then its should be personal, unless you have personal feelings on your own dress code.

then don't look down on others on how they dress. they may not want to be like you.
 
addressed to no one here in particular.:

private event has every right to make a dress code if it wants and should within reason.

the being in the public part of it then its should be personal, unless you have personal feelings on your own dress code.

then don't look down on others on how they dress. they may not want to be like you.
The DCC is a private event that enforces time rules for matches, but not their own dress code rules.

kollegedave
 
What decade do you live in???? Dockers is deader than Elvis. I SERIOUSLY doubt ANYONE at ANY of these co's even know pool exists. 'Maybe' ESPN but they gave up on pool years ago. Look at snow-boarders/skateboarders, they aren't fashion icons by any stretch yet they are on both tv and on-line streams. I'll take a lil grunge over those goofy ass StarTrek pool jerseys ANY day.
Since Dockers is dead, maybe they need to get their name out with males 18 - 35. I do agree that pool is a challenging demographic for them as the target audience for pool now is men 50 -100, but Dockers needs somebody to buy their clothes. I guess we could all just give up (which I think is what has happened). We can attend the Derby in in 2046, and I think we could guarantee like 50 people to make the toaster oven giveaway at the casino.

kollegedave
 
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DCC is MADE for bums and hustlers wearing anything they choose. It's not a pro event. It encourages gambling. Why are we trying to make it into something it's not?

Nowhere is it written that this, or any other event, can’t evolve out of the ooze, particularly for the general betterment of the sport.

Lou Figueroa
 
So, a lot of you guys want to compare pool to golf. And I get it. They're very similar. They're both single player games that fat guys can be really, really good at. You hit balls with sticks into holes. Once you develop a decent stroke/swing and a basic understanding of the game, most of it is mental. You can go as crazy or conservative as you'd like with gear and equipment. A lot of people drink while doing them. I don't get to play either as much as I'd like. The list goes on. But I want to point something out. The Waste Management Open: It's a circus. And it's turned into one of the most popular non-major tour events. The Derby is the pool world's version of that. Sure, the players at The Waste Management Open still have to stick to the standard PGA dress code. But I don't think anyone in their right mind would think the event would be somehow less popular if the pros were allowed to dress casually. If anything, I think it could make it even more popular. And, yes. I know "golf casual" might as well be a White Tie compared to "pool casual." But how cool would be be to see the pros out there in shorts and tee shirts playing in a pro event? I think it would make the pros more relatable and human to the Average Joe. And, let's face it, the Average Joes make up the majority of viewers.

I'm all for polos and slacks for other big events. But, man... Let The Derby be The Derby. It's already a shell of itself since moving across the river. Let's not strip what little of its soul it has left by enforcing something as inconsequential as a dress code.
 
So, a lot of you guys want to compare pool to golf. And I get it. They're very similar. They're both single player games that fat guys can be really, really good at. You hit balls with sticks into holes. Once you develop a decent stroke/swing and a basic understanding of the game, most of it is mental. You can go as crazy or conservative as you'd like with gear and equipment. A lot of people drink while doing them. I don't get to play either as much as I'd like. The list goes on. But I want to point something out. The Waste Management Open: It's a circus. And it's turned into one of the most popular non-major tour events. The Derby is the pool world's version of that. Sure, the players at The Waste Management Open still have to stick to the standard PGA dress code. But I don't think anyone in their right mind would think the event would be somehow less popular if the pros were allowed to dress casually. If anything, I think it could make it even more popular. And, yes. I know "golf casual" might as well be a White Tie compared to "pool casual." But how cool would be be to see the pros out there in shorts and tee shirts playing in a pro event? I think it would make the pros more relatable and human to the Average Joe. And, let's face it, the Average Joes make up the majority of viewers.

I'm all for polos and slacks for other big events. But, man... Let The Derby be The Derby. It's already a shell of itself since moving across the river. Let's not strip what little of its soul it has left by enforcing something as inconsequential as a dress code.
I would have less of a problem with your position if the DCC actually said there is no dress code. Just be honest about it. There are two problems as I see it, and I know others disagree:

1) Pool players looking like overgrown man-children is suboptimal for the promotion of the sport

2) DCC publishes a dress code and all sorts of goofy ideas to speed up the matches, and they enforce the goofy ideas but not the dress code that exists in the same set of rules.

If for their dress code they said wear what you want...that would be honest, and it would take away one of my complaints.

kollegedave
 
What decade do you live in???? Dockers is deader than Elvis. I SERIOUSLY doubt ANYONE at ANY of these co's even know pool exists. 'Maybe' ESPN but they gave up on pool years ago. Look at snow-boarders/skateboarders, they aren't fashion icons by any stretch yet they are on both tv and on-line streams. I'll take a lil grunge over those goofy ass StarTrek pool jerseys ANY day.
A lot of people are hung up on Polo shirts and slacks of some sort.

They want the players to look like Maytag salesmen working in Sears back in the 70s.
 
I would have less of a problem with your position if the DCC actually said there is no dress code. Just be honest about it. There are two problems as I see it, and I know others disagree:

1) Pool players looking like overgrown man-children is suboptimal for the promotion of the sport

2) DCC publishes a dress code and all sorts of goofy ideas to speed up the matches, and they enforce the goofy ideas but not the dress code that exists in the same set of rules.

If for their dress code they said wear what you want...that would be honest, and it would take away one of my complaints.

kollegedave
And yet its going strong after almost 30yrs. Don't like it don't go/don't watch. This event was intended to be a modern version of Johnston City not some geek filled 'pool promotion'. Greg wants people to come and GAMBLE not walk a fashion runway. 'Suboptimal', wtf.
 
A lot of people are hung up on Polo shirts and slacks of some sort.

They want the players to look like Maytag salesmen working in Sears back in the 70s.
I don't have any issues with dress codes for other major events. And I default to polos and slacks for those because, well... It's what you see golf pros wearing. And I don't want them to go back to suits or tuxedos or anything like that. Those are uncomfortable for the players and it's outdated. So what would you recommend? And I don't mean that in a challenging dickish way. I'm seriously asking just for conversation's sake.

Another thing I've been thinking about... How many of the people here who have strong opinions about The Derby's dress code have actually been to The Derby? How many of you went during The Executive West days? I'll be the first to admit that one of the reasons I don't want any kind of actual dress code at The Derby is because I know what it was and I'd like to keep as much of that as we reasonably can. Granted, it got "a little" hairy there the last couple of years. But, man... For several years it was the closest thing I've ever experienced to real magic and was a seriously good time for the vast majority of the people who attended.
 
I am not a fan of Polo shirts.

I prefer nice, solid-color t-shirts with NO collars..

Colllars serve NO function.

They were created hundreds and thousands of years ago to pull up and wrap around your neck for protection.

My neck does NOT need protection in the pool hall.
 
Maybe one of youze can get a group together next year and wear borat swimsuits as a form of protest.
Change or we all come dressed very sexy time!
 
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