Interesting, never heard of it. A quick Google search tells me it's mostly used in VNEA tournaments/leagues, which I have never played.
Max Eberle on people who play on barboxes "Pool players need to grow some balls"
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Are you saying that you played Scott even?
I think Max was referring to editorial you, not himself..........
I don't remember if we played even or 8-7. I offered to play him even. I know I got to 7 balls twice so thinkin' about it we would've had to have been playing either even or 9-8. I know for a fact I wasn't getting more than one ball. Afterwards he said to me that if I were so inclined I could make a lot of money playing locals one hole. I'm not and never have been. I really do do it for the love of the game.
I'd sit there all day and cover time if he'd play me for fun(he was wanting practice to get ready for a match up so he wanted something on the line). Me, Donny Mills and Shawn Putnam would do so a lot. Although with Shawn and Donny it was on Shawn's table at mbc so technically he was covering time.
Another time Scott and I also played even ten ball race to 21. He got me 21 to 13. This was back when that pool hall in Tempe was still called freezers ice house. The one hole was more recent but still a couple of years ago.
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why back in the day when we gambled we always played on 10 foot tables(this part is true).
not the 9 foot for sissies.
these pros now that play on 9 footers will never reach their peak.
and the tournaments are set up for them so they don't cry all the time.
how's that.
not the 9 foot for sissies.
these pros now that play on 9 footers will never reach their peak.
and the tournaments are set up for them so they don't cry all the time.
how's that.
I wish we still all played on 10 footers.
Rusty in Montana
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Jayden , I've said that very thing quite often ! If I were to win the lottery id buy a 10' table as in my way of thinking it separates the wheat from the chaff so to speak !
I thot my area was a drought, but we've got a hall - 4 bucks an hour, a dozen GC 3s and 4s, couple of Diamonds, 1 heated 3c table, 1 snooker, and one lonely bar box.
Only other real hall has half dozen big Diamonds and 20 bar boxes @ 8.50 or 9 bucks an hour. Guess which are always busy. Hoot Hoot.
Or sometimes playing it on a snooker table as was popular at “The Rack” amongst some. Had a few good scores on that table.
Yup, the flat-earthers are mostly chain-jerkers looking to get a rise out of you.
They like to cite as proof an ancient astrophysics model that show a stationary flat earth with orbiting sun and moon can be consistent with earthly observations of these bodies. However, it quickly falls apart when other celestial bodies are considered or when confronted with simple examples that confirm curvature.
On the spectrum, they have slightly less credibility than those who insist McCartney is dead, or Elvis is still alive. However, if they wear a tee shirt proclaiming their flat-earth faith, girls will come up to them and start a conversation. Maybe.
George the Greek
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The poolhalls here in Nova Scotia are mostly 9ft with one location having a token 6x12. The location i go to put in two 7ft tables and they mostly get used by the tournament organizers to lay out the tournament sheets etc and have yet to see anyone play on them.
Rusty in Montana
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During my first visit to Denver I got to go into Colfax Billiards to play a few racks with a friend of mine , it was a slice of heaven on earth all old GC tables !
Out of the corner of my eye I was watching two fella's playing 9 ball on the snooker table and they had to bank the 9 to win both were for the most part drilling the center of the pockets .
They were playing with normal sized pool balls and my friend thought she overheard them agree to play for $ 500.00 a game !
I was rather impressed to say the least since I've never played on a pool table with cloth as fast as what was on that table , it made me feel as if I was a rank amateur even more than I actually was !
So maybe Max needs to take a trip to Denver to find either of those two fella's for some action !
Out of the corner of my eye I was watching two fella's playing 9 ball on the snooker table and they had to bank the 9 to win both were for the most part drilling the center of the pockets .
They were playing with normal sized pool balls and my friend thought she overheard them agree to play for $ 500.00 a game !
I was rather impressed to say the least since I've never played on a pool table with cloth as fast as what was on that table , it made me feel as if I was a rank amateur even more than I actually was !
So maybe Max needs to take a trip to Denver to find either of those two fella's for some action !
Great post. For the majority of pool players, bar tables are plenty challenging enough- probably for anybody below 600 in Fargo.
True, pros should mostly play on 9 footers, but I doubt the results of tournaments would be very different it they only played on 7 footers- the most talented players will still come out on top, especially if the races are to a decent number. Sure, there are some bar table specialists, but they usually aren't going to beat world class players on a bar table if the race is long enough.
8intheside
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I never understood the hatred for the 7 footers.
Your right, You made the point precisely. The Pro's are practicing on 9' tables all the time period. They show up and play in the tournaments and play on whatever the tournament table is and go back home and practice on their home table, not on a 7' table.
The USA's performances against the rest of the worlds players has NOTHING to do with BarBox tables, they cant win on them either.
Here’s what I’ve learned…….I win a whole lot more games on a 9’ table playing a lower ranked opponent 9 ball than when playing them on a 7’ table. I can easily beat them on a 9’ table playing safeties and get BIH more often and they only slop the 9 ball in rarely. On a 7’ table, unintended object balls drop in pockets, including the 9 ball, a lot more often and that tends to resultantly help their win probability %. Playing 8 ball on a 7’ table is easier than on a 9’ table & so is 10 ball.
When you transition from a 7’ to a 9’, cue ball position necessarily gets extended because of the larger playing surface (50”x100”). When you play mostly on a 7’ table, your judgement about stroke speed and extension thru the cue ball becomes oriented to moving the cue ball for position on a smaller playing surface. So generally speaking, playing on a 9’ involves a little more cue ball speed and if you’ve mainly played 7’ tables, you’ll discover your cue ball shape comes up short or long more often than you wanted.
I always viewed 7’ tables as a beginners table but that’s because growing up, I played on 9’ and 10’ tables. The only 7’
tables you’d find were in a tavern or some after school program run by the local church. In fact, I don’t even recall ever seeing a 8’ or oversized 8’ in any pool parlors. As far as I can recollect, back in the 60’s, the pool parlors had either 9’ or 10’ in NYC. From an industry standpoint, 7’ tables have been the salvation for the majority of pool room operators because of socialized pool leagues. Plus pool rooms also get to squeeze in more tables in the same amount of space.
If APA, BCA, or any other pool league franchisors substituted, or else added, 9’ tables to their venues, I think it would admittedly take some time but the caliber of pocket billiards played in the USA would get elevated from what it is now.
When you transition from a 7’ to a 9’, cue ball position necessarily gets extended because of the larger playing surface (50”x100”). When you play mostly on a 7’ table, your judgement about stroke speed and extension thru the cue ball becomes oriented to moving the cue ball for position on a smaller playing surface. So generally speaking, playing on a 9’ involves a little more cue ball speed and if you’ve mainly played 7’ tables, you’ll discover your cue ball shape comes up short or long more often than you wanted.
I always viewed 7’ tables as a beginners table but that’s because growing up, I played on 9’ and 10’ tables. The only 7’
tables you’d find were in a tavern or some after school program run by the local church. In fact, I don’t even recall ever seeing a 8’ or oversized 8’ in any pool parlors. As far as I can recollect, back in the 60’s, the pool parlors had either 9’ or 10’ in NYC. From an industry standpoint, 7’ tables have been the salvation for the majority of pool room operators because of socialized pool leagues. Plus pool rooms also get to squeeze in more tables in the same amount of space.
If APA, BCA, or any other pool league franchisors substituted, or else added, 9’ tables to their venues, I think it would admittedly take some time but the caliber of pocket billiards played in the USA would get elevated from what it is now.
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8intheside
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I agree.its a matter of the rest of the world has not only caught up, but has surpassed us in the game.
Could you imagine him telling this to football, basketball, soccer fans etc
What a duncecap
Why is it that a bad player only gets better playing a much better player even? Why wouldn't the weaker player get any better playing the better player with a spot?? What exactly is it that prevents the weaker player from improving if he gets a spot??