Max Eberle on people who play on barboxes "Pool players need to grow some balls"

Wait a minute. I thought this whole time that Flat Earth was just an anti-conspiracy satirical movement, and that Max was being coy.

People actually have a genuine belief in this? That is some wild tribal denial.
 
I play anybody without weight, but I hardly ever play for cash and only play what I can afford to lose. My last money match was playing Scott Frost one hole.
Are you saying that you played Scott even?

I think Max was referring to editorial you, not himself..........
 
Are you saying that you played Scott even?

I think Max was referring to editorial you, not himself..........
I don't remember if we played even or 8-7. I offered to play him even. I know I got to 7 balls twice so thinkin' about it we would've had to have been playing either even or 9-8. I know for a fact I wasn't getting more than one ball. Afterwards he said to me that if I were so inclined I could make a lot of money playing locals one hole. I'm not and never have been. I really do do it for the love of the game.

I'd sit there all day and cover time if he'd play me for fun(he was wanting practice to get ready for a match up so he wanted something on the line). Me, Donny Mills and Shawn Putnam would do so a lot. Although with Shawn and Donny it was on Shawn's table at mbc so technically he was covering time.

Another time Scott and I also played even ten ball race to 21. He got me 21 to 13. This was back when that pool hall in Tempe was still called freezers ice house. The one hole was more recent but still a couple of years ago.
 
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why back in the day when we gambled we always played on 10 foot tables(this part is true).

not the 9 foot for sissies.

these pros now that play on 9 footers will never reach their peak.

and the tournaments are set up for them so they don't cry all the time.

how's that.
 
I'm lucky as fk: my local spot, Magoo's in Tulsa, has 10 nice GC4's, one 9ft ProAm and two old Pro's from the CamelTour days. 5bux/hr day rate.Schwiiiiiiiing.
I thot my area was a drought, but we've got a hall - 4 bucks an hour, a dozen GC 3s and 4s, couple of Diamonds, 1 heated 3c table, 1 snooker, and one lonely bar box.😆
Only other real hall has half dozen big Diamonds and 20 bar boxes @ 8.50 or 9 bucks an hour. Guess which are always busy. Hoot Hoot.😉
 
especially one pocket on the ten footer. almost no one played it on the 9 footers that gambled for more than a couple bucks.
Or sometimes playing it on a snooker table as was popular at “The Rack” amongst some. Had a few good scores on that table.
 
Wait a minute. I thought this whole time that Flat Earth was just an anti-conspiracy satirical movement, and that Max was being coy.

People actually have a genuine belief in this? That is some wild tribal denial.
Yup, the flat-earthers are mostly chain-jerkers looking to get a rise out of you.

They like to cite as proof an ancient astrophysics model that show a stationary flat earth with orbiting sun and moon can be consistent with earthly observations of these bodies. However, it quickly falls apart when other celestial bodies are considered or when confronted with simple examples that confirm curvature.

On the spectrum, they have slightly less credibility than those who insist McCartney is dead, or Elvis is still alive. However, if they wear a tee shirt proclaiming their flat-earth faith, girls will come up to them and start a conversation. Maybe.
 
I'm lucky as fk: my local spot, Magoo's in Tulsa, has 10 nice GC4's, one 9ft ProAm and two old Pro's from the CamelTour days. 5bux/hr day rate.Schwiiiiiiiing.
The poolhalls here in Nova Scotia are mostly 9ft with one location having a token 6x12. The location i go to put in two 7ft tables and they mostly get used by the tournament organizers to lay out the tournament sheets etc and have yet to see anyone play on them.
 
During my first visit to Denver I got to go into Colfax Billiards to play a few racks with a friend of mine , it was a slice of heaven on earth all old GC tables !
Out of the corner of my eye I was watching two fella's playing 9 ball on the snooker table and they had to bank the 9 to win both were for the most part drilling the center of the pockets .
They were playing with normal sized pool balls and my friend thought she overheard them agree to play for $ 500.00 a game !

I was rather impressed to say the least since I've never played on a pool table with cloth as fast as what was on that table , it made me feel as if I was a rank amateur even more than I actually was !
So maybe Max needs to take a trip to Denver to find either of those two fella's for some action !
 
Of course a 75x will crush a 55x. If I understand FR, a 200 point discrepancy means the higher skilled player will win 4:1 ratio. 7-5 is a joke. Would I play in that tournament? Yes, if the entry is $20 and I can play a few matches and racks for $20. If the entry is $150, hell no; I have almost no chance of cashing and why would I donate?

Pool has an extremely large spread of skill, commitment, and audience.

1. The casual player. Goes to the bar on a date and bangs some balls. Won't even beat an APA 4. Can't spell "Fargo". Doesn't even know what Fargo is.
2. The semi-serious player. APA 3, 4, 5. May or may not know what a Fargo Rate is. Might be 350-400 FR. Can run out once in a while in 2, maybe 3 innings. Might BnR once a year, if he/she is lucky and is "on".
3. The more serious player. APA 6-7. Could be a FR 450-500. The big fish in the small local hall pond. Make a mistake against such a player and sit and watch him/her run out. Is always a threat to BnR but doesn't do so regularly.
4. Mid-range APA7. FR 500-550. Can and does regularly BnR.
5. Super7. FR550-650. Don't miss against this guy/gal. You won't have another shot very often. May or may not play APA. Probably plays BCA.
6. Semi-Pro or ShortStop. Doesn't play APA. Might play BCA. FR650-750. Don't bother playing this guy/gal. You don't have a chance if you're an APA 5, 6, or "regular" 7.
7. FR750-850. Pro. You pay as a railbird to watch him/her play. No, you don't play this guy/gal for $ unless you are at least 700 yourself.

To compare it to other sports, would you try to corner an NFL receiver who can run 4.3 40's? Would you try to block a 280-lb linebacker running up the middle on a blitz with corners also blitzing? Would you try to open-field tackle a running back who can run 4.4 40s? Of course you wouldn't You'd get crushed.

Would you try to hit an MLB pitcher who can curve a ball two feet at 85 MPH? Or throw a fastball 98-102 MPH at your head? Of course not.

Would you play a pro golfer even and take your 80s game into a money match where the pro can shoot 60s? Of course not.

So let's not compare pro 9-ft tournaments to a local handicapped tournament on a 7-ft Diamond. It's not the same comparison. And no, don't lament that "ya gotta be able to play on a 9-footer and if you can't you should quit pool."

Is there a graduated path to grow professionals in the USA? Absolutely not. So let's not delude ourselves or denigrate the APA 4 who shows up week after week, has a good time, keeps the game alive by buying expensive cues, keeps the local hall open, and runs out from the 4 to the 9 once every 13-week session.

Too many levels for us to agree on the status of pool today. It's reality that pool is simply not a priority for the masses, and there's no pool little league to home-grow new pros.
Great post. For the majority of pool players, bar tables are plenty challenging enough- probably for anybody below 600 in Fargo.

True, pros should mostly play on 9 footers, but I doubt the results of tournaments would be very different it they only played on 7 footers- the most talented players will still come out on top, especially if the races are to a decent number. Sure, there are some bar table specialists, but they usually aren't going to beat world class players on a bar table if the race is long enough.
 
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