I agree, and I think nowadays it would be tough for anyone who doesn't play it to be remotely interested in watching a whole match. I could see some younger rotation players watching a rack or two and then burying their faces in their phones.
John Schmidt runs 820
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8intheside
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Who cares? Even if they were 7. Inch pockets, he still ran 820 balls
Also, JS should shave the beard. Just sayin'
Gonzo09
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You can check out John's bio and life story here from our "Legends of the Cue" podcast. Looks like we need to add an addendum...
https://www.legendsofthecue.com/guests/schmidt-john/
https://www.legendsofthecue.com/guests/schmidt-john/
Scrunge19
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There’s no way he’s a hall of famer.
A high run of 820 and a US Open 20 years ago isn’t anywhere close to outweighing his complete lack of meaningful titles.
8intheside
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I agree with you, but here’s the question. Is it harder to win a us open or run 820 balls?
30/40 people have won US Open 9 ball championships
Only 2 people are in the 800 plus club.
It's not harder for the top pros, they just don't want to dedicate that much time for something meaningless.
If someone with a lot of money paid Joshua Filler to dedicate a few months on straight pool, I can see him easily beating the highest run.
There is no incentive for a top pro to attempt this, besides love for straight pool.
It didn't elevate Jason's career and it won't do anything for Schmidt.
Well those 30/40 people actually attempted to win a US Open 9 ball (they actually get paid and win a trophy and potential sponsorship). Nobody is attempting to run 800 balls, so that comparison is not accurate.
Yes but he did both
jbygden
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He did win the equivalent tournament in 2012 though, albeit a non-sanctioned event...
It's all smoke and mirrors.
If you compare the field at the 2012 Dragon 14.1 event to that found at the 2012 European 14.1 Championships, you'll learn that the tougher field was found at the European Championships. After 2010, Charlie's event, which I always enjoyed, was neither a World Championship nor a de facto World Championship. It was just a nice 14.1 event and, to his credit, Charlie helped revive interest in straight pool in America through his efforts.
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Right. The "equivalent" event in 2012 had a field like a regional 9 ball tour stop in the USA. Without the WPA sanctioning, it didn't get any traveling pros like it did in 2005, 2006, and 2008.
I heard from a mutual friend that just before the 820, John had two runs in the 190s.
The 100+ BPI for a week is crazy.
The 100+ BPI for a week is crazy.
That's nuts he ran that much. I thought he was pretty much retired. I would have bet large he couldn't beat his 626 today. It took him 1-2 years the first time. Great job.
Badpenguin
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Maybe he just needed someone like Bob to
If you look at the probability just from the 100 BPI average, running 820 seems to be a serious outlier. With a 100 BPI, he is roughly 36% to run 100 or more from the current shot. 800 is that to the eighth power, and 820 or more is a 1 in 3833 chance. I don't think he had anywhere near that many innings in the current series of attempts. He plays at a rate of about 200 balls per hour, and that would average two attempts per hour.
I'm not questioning that the run happened, I'm just saying that the usual probability calculations don't add up, so maybe there is some psychology or something else going on.
I'm not questioning that the run happened, I'm just saying that the usual probability calculations don't add up, so maybe there is some psychology or something else going on.
Like Newtonian mathematics cannot exclude quantum mechanics?
