The CARBON FIBER Shaft With the LEAST Cue Ball DEFLECTION
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uk_9_ball_convert
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I've never used a low deflection or carbon fiber cue. Came from English pool where (at least when I played, not sure if it's changed) everyone was using a traditional wooden cues. Since I've taken up American pool I've been a broke student so haven't had money to buy a cue and just been using the club's cues.
Was thinking when I finally finish my studies and get a job I'd splash out on the lowest deflection cue I could find, as I've never been great at compensating for it. So thanks for this video, it was really useful to give me an idea which cues have the least deflection.
But occured to me watching that video, is a downside of a low deflection cue that if I'm only slightly snookered and want to swerve around the ball it will be harder with the low deflection cue?
I know everyone has jump cues, break cues as well as their playing cue. Does anyone ever take 2 playing clues, one low deflection and one not, just to aid with swerve shots?
Was thinking when I finally finish my studies and get a job I'd splash out on the lowest deflection cue I could find, as I've never been great at compensating for it. So thanks for this video, it was really useful to give me an idea which cues have the least deflection.
But occured to me watching that video, is a downside of a low deflection cue that if I'm only slightly snookered and want to swerve around the ball it will be harder with the low deflection cue?
I know everyone has jump cues, break cues as well as their playing cue. Does anyone ever take 2 playing clues, one low deflection and one not, just to aid with swerve shots?
Yes. Swerve shots seem to be harder with low deflection. Not much but i notice it..
I appreciate the offer, but I would prefer to have somebody send me a a wide collection of popular shafts that I have not tested yet so I can test them all at once without too much trouble. BTW, I have tested a Cuetec Cynergy already:
I've had both and the Mezz deflects slightly less, but the cynergy feels so much better. Mezz feels like a steel pole, similar to revo.
Less CB deflection isn't always better for all people. See:
Although, CF shafts do offer advantages. See:
I have not experienced this. Although, it is definitely more difficult to jump with an LD shaft.
How would you describe the difference as compared to a high deflection shaft? I've never experienced this, but I would like to test it out based on what you explain.
Personally, I don't care how a cue sounds or feels or looks. I just care that the CB goes where I want with the speed and spin I want. See:
dendweller
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Guess you may need to aim a little differently but ld shafts sure swerve plenty
What some(most?) people fail to get is that ALL shafts deflect and you adjust to whatever that is pretty damn quick. The difference in lo-d shafts is tiny and once you play a while with a shaft, ANY shaft, your eye/hand/brain computer compensates without you thinking about it. I know a guy that plays with nothing but old-school hi-squirt maple and he'll beat just about everyone on here. Bring your lowest squirt, highest tech shaft and get a dose. BTW, he lives in Oklahoma and mows grass for a living. Durbin cue, solid maple, le pro tips is what he uses.
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You get used to any cue FAST. You play with any cue/shaft and your 'pool system' adjusts to it. What you said 'might' be true if you suddenly switched to another shaft, then yes you may miss some til you adjust.
i've never had issues swerving the cb with ld shafts.
I am the complete opposite, sound and feel are paramount to me. Of course I want the cue to go where I aim, but I will learn these nuances over time, as one does anytime they change equipment.
A certain putter manufacturer always says that sound=feel=confidence, and personally I agree.
In that case, LD shafts are unnecessary, just get used to a cue….
I’m amazed that after 30 years of LD shafts, people still don’t get the concept
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I agree and i think most players factor sound/feel into the equation. The shaft co's spend a lot of time/$$ in getting these aspects right.
dendweller
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I think players, if they try enough different cues, will run into a shaft with an amount of deflection that fits them and they'll probably recognize that when it happens. You can spend a lot of time getting used to other shafts but if you play with that right one again you'll know it and wonder why you keep looking around.
I remember the day the first 314 showed up in the pool room. I played with one for a little while and sold it. The difference is tiny imo. If you like them go for it. I've played my best pool(yrs ago in my 20's) with a stiff, ivory ferruled steel joint cue. It squirted like hell but i compensated without thought. The best players on earth for the last 40+yrs, the Filipinos, have beat everyone's ass with solid maple cues. Efren and Busty both tried them and said 'no'. Believe me brother, we get the concept.Not everyone buys in.
I bought a Pechauer carbon fiber shaft a few years ago, because I have a Pechauer cue, and I figured it would fit properly. And it does. Don't know how it compares, because I haven't tried any others. I like it, and it's much better than the shaft that came with the cue. But, I'm not sure it is all that much different from my Keith Josey cue, or a 314 I bought many years ago. I'm OK with it.
Worst shaft i ever tried was the highly-touted super lo squirt Predator Z shaft. There was nothing about it that i liked. The size,taper,feel,sound all sucked imo. Yeah it was lo squirt but so what? I couldn't run four balls with that pos. Put the basic Schon shaft back on and i was good to go. I will say this: IF i was starting from scratch i would probably go with some degree of lower deflection, might possibly shorten the learning process. I played all my pool with standard shafts and was totally used to them.
I agree about the Z shaft. First one I had literally split apart just from normal shooting, no drops, breaking etc. so Predator did end up replacing it for me for free but I still never cared for it and to me my Cuetec synergy is 100% better.