technique help? struggling with cue Acceleration?

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CanadianGuy

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Good Day All,

I've pinpointed an issue that I think is really hindering my progress,
I'm back practicing often after many years out of the game, things are going very well, I'd put myself around 650 fargo

I feel like I almost have two issues relative to acceleration/inability to push forward the cue with speed

one I suspect is physical,
i.e. physical inability to accelerate forward the cue quickly , easily noticeable on my break, so likely age related diminishing fast twitch ability, I have been compensating with more wrist flicking action at the expense of accuracy

second is Im guessing slight nerves/trepidation when shooting, almost slowing down do maintain accuracy on the right contact point on the cue ball, I need shorter punchier backswings and short bridge hand distance to cue ball to minimize this

The former via specific physical exercises seems a bit of an easier fix than the latter

interested in feedback please
 
CanadianGuy said:
Good Day All,

I've pinpointed an issue that I think is really hindering my progress,
I'm back practicing often after many years out of the game, things are going very well, I'd put myself around 650 fargo

I feel like I almost have two issues relative to acceleration/inability to push forward the cue with speed

one I suspect is physical,
i.e. physical inability to accelerate forward the cue quickly , easily noticeable on my break, so likely age related diminishing fast twitch ability, I have been compensating with more wrist flicking action at the expense of accuracy

second is Im guessing slight nerves/trepidation when shooting, almost slowing down do maintain accuracy on the right contact point on the cue ball, I need shorter punchier backswings and short bridge hand distance to cue ball to minimize this

The former via specific physical exercises seems a bit of an easier fix than the latter

interested in feedback please
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Try focusing on carrying the cue through the cueball rather than trying to push it through or into the cb.
 
CanadianGuy said:
Good Day All,

I've pinpointed an issue that I think is really hindering my progress,
I'm back practicing often after many years out of the game, things are going very well, I'd put myself around 650 fargo

I feel like I almost have two issues relative to acceleration/inability to push forward the cue with speed

one I suspect is physical,
i.e. physical inability to accelerate forward the cue quickly , easily noticeable on my break, so likely age related diminishing fast twitch ability, I have been compensating with more wrist flicking action at the expense of accuracy

second is Im guessing slight nerves/trepidation when shooting, almost slowing down do maintain accuracy on the right contact point on the cue ball, I need shorter punchier backswings and short bridge hand distance to cue ball to minimize this

The former via specific physical exercises seems a bit of an easier fix than the latter

interested in feedback please
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Dr. Dave had a pretty good video where he makes a convincing case that most people can bring the up to full speed with a bridge length that is only 8 inches long. Some things to think about:

1) is your distance from the cue ball at address far enough away so that you can gradually accelerate your cue up to full speed vs. are you too far away such that you reach full speed too soon and have trouble accelerating through the cue ball.

2) Are you potentially griping the cue too tightly? I often credit LFigureroa on here for his observation, because I think it is smart and genuinely overlooked by many: I would respectfully submit that you want to work to achieve a grip on the cue that is loose-ish, but that has the thumb on your back hand pointed straight down. If you attend a pro event, you will see many pros have their back thumb pointed straight down. If there is a 1A type of grip on the back cue, it's where the thumb is pointed straight down, but the tip of the thumb is curled back. As an example, look at the picture of Josh Filler here: https://bigcatcues.com/blogs/news/h...SZUqN60PNY_eqvQinNnaXzuMisYKiF-02h8T76ZjlOxZ1

If you get your bridge length and grip sorted out, you will be significantly closer to ending your power outage.

Best of Luck,

kollegedave
 
David in FL said:
650 and you're asking this?

Ok then...
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Yo relax bro lol.


@CanadianGuy , I’m no expert but I have worked and trained with many 700+ Fargo. Here’s my opinion, with 650+ Fargo it’s all in the mind and mentally strong. Work on your muscles memory by drills and keep doing it til you get good at it. I don’t mean try to run out, I meant DRILL that constantly improving aspect of the game. You can message me and I’ll send you many different drill you can do. After that drill, just go to pool hall and play $$$ set for small amounts not super big $$$, small enough with good player will strengthen your mind. Even a great player or pro player, under pressure, they can miss an easy shot. Playing for moneys will give you a much much faster way to strengthen your pressure game. The rest is to have fun.

Like david said, a 650 Fargo asking this? Trust me, we all asked the same. At 650-750, you should already break and run 5-7 times, but playing under pressure will allow you to move out and up from 650+. That’s my two cents buddy. Let me know.

Oh yeah, one last thing, take your time to make the shot. Treat each shot like a winning the game shot. Plan it slowly, use chalking as a way to slow down and plan your next shot. Trust me, that will also important and improve your game.
 
kollegedave said:
Dr. Dave had a pretty good video where he makes a convincing case that most people can bring the up to full speed with a bridge length that is only 8 inches long. Some things to think about:

1) is your distance from the cue ball at address far enough away so that you can gradually accelerate your cue up to full speed vs. are you too far away such that you reach full speed too soon and have trouble accelerating through the cue ball.



If you get your bridge length and grip sorted out, you will be significantly closer to ending your power outage.

Best of Luck,

kollegedave
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Been working a lot on this. I tend to need a longer bridge length because I get too short, noticeably too short sometimes. But then regardless of bridge length often take it back too short too. A long bridge doesn’t help if you take it back 2”. For me I think I need to get a more consistent bridge length and then take the cue back closer to it. Getting to full speed in 8-10” is good to know about. I naturally seem to want to be fairly short but if I can make it reasonable and effective instead of really short it would be good. I’ll have to find that video.
 
do the up and down table thing and find out how to control your speeds for the distance the cue ball travels.
if you cant do that you are at square one and need to go from there.

bridge length and the rest are less important than controlling your speed. then you can adjust them to suit what works best for you.
 
Find an instructor in your area and let him / her decide where you need assistance.

Check your ego at the door & realize your aren't a 650 unless you have the games via FargoRate that puts you there.
 
You’re focused on the CB so you’re going to slow down, poke, slam get frustrated and die all around what you’re focused on. SPF has an F in it that stands for Finish. My Finish is my grip hand going to my chest, can’t do it with all shots and can’t even let your stroke out on most … BUT if you focus on the F after you’ve done the SP you’ll go throooough the CB on the way to your Finish as the CB is just something in the way.
 
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