The front 3 tables and 2 of the side ones were all 4” flat. Maybe you were just playing well lol
small tight pockets in one pocket good or bad?
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I’m just trying to make a point that a lot of rooms here have 4” pockets and plenty of patronage and action. I live here and frequent the rooms. Not sure why people are trying to argue with me. Don’t care anymore
I’m just trying to make a point that a lot of rooms here have 4” pockets and plenty of patronage and action. I live here and frequent the rooms. Not sure why people are trying to argue with me. Don’t care anymore
The room is gone — I’ve been around to many, many rooms all over the country from Seattle to, Montana, to SoCal, to NorCal, to AZ, to Atlanta, to Chicago, to Kansas, to Kentucky, to the north East Coast, to NYC, to NOLA, to FL, and more.
A few tournaments too.
Played on tables with all sizes pockets.
Played at HoB. Nice room.
Lou Figueroa
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It's just aesthetics to me. Same thing happened with everything that's ever been for public consumption. Food, cars, music's a good model. The product can even be considered an entirely different product now.
To you. I have no ingrained gamesmanship and welcome the difficulty. To me it's a productive endeavor. There for sure is more shooting to learn than being a gamester allows.
What degree of tightest are you speaking of?
IMO, you can go too far and ruin the game — you have to be able to work the CB a bit for position to play real pool. If it’s all about just pocketing the ball you lose that.
There needs to be balance between pocketing balls with accuracy and enough room to work the CB, IMO.
Lou Figueroa
I played on a 1 pocket GC3 at a room in Philly 2 weeks ago. It was triple shimmed to 4.5" pockets (or possibly extended rails, I'm not sure). It was the main action table front and center. This used to be the "standard" for one-hole play.
I played 5 9 ball sets on it. Both me and my opponent were playing out of our minds and running out like water. It might have been the best I played in a year.
What struck me is when a ball brushes the rail a bit, it still goes on this table. On a Diamond Pro-Cut 4.5" pocket, with its different facing angles and deeper shelf, it rejects those same balls. (I already knew this, but this particular 9 ball session really reinforced it).
Going from a 4.5" GC to a 4.5" Diamond already increased the pocket difficulty by a large amount. Now that Diamonds are the standard table, taking them down to 4", 4 1/8", or 4 1/4" pockets for one pocket play is needless imo. It makes it TOO difficult.
I played 5 9 ball sets on it. Both me and my opponent were playing out of our minds and running out like water. It might have been the best I played in a year.
What struck me is when a ball brushes the rail a bit, it still goes on this table. On a Diamond Pro-Cut 4.5" pocket, with its different facing angles and deeper shelf, it rejects those same balls. (I already knew this, but this particular 9 ball session really reinforced it).
Going from a 4.5" GC to a 4.5" Diamond already increased the pocket difficulty by a large amount. Now that Diamonds are the standard table, taking them down to 4", 4 1/8", or 4 1/4" pockets for one pocket play is needless imo. It makes it TOO difficult.
Doesn’t necessarily make the game more difficult it just changes it. It makes pocketing more difficult. It makes taking balls out easier. It makes playing safe up table easier. It makes scratching less frequent. Etc
Anything you can hit down the rail without cinching. Pockets with no jaws can go down to 3.25 maybe; just an aperture.
The rest of pool, speed, position - can be mastered. You don't need the hole to give you an angle. Sure there will be trade offs - no more lame safeties for instance...
I post this stuff all the time - nobody buys it out loud. Developing to that degree though, is for the having.
Anything you can hit down the rail without cinching. Pockets with no jaws can go down to 3.25 maybe; just an aperture.
The rest of pool, speed, position - can be mastered. You don't need the hole to give you an angle. Sure there will be trade offs - no more lame safeties for instance...
I post this stuff all the time - nobody buys it out loud. Developing to that degree though, is for the having.
Not pool -- what you're describing is something else.
Lou Figueroa
That's the old school bucking the new school.
If you played at SMHB on the first three tables in front of the gallery 11,12 and 13 you were playing on 4 inch pockets.
Ernesto has tightened the pockets on tables all over S. Cali.
Tight pockets in one pocket is the norm in S. Cali although action is dying.
Crenshaw has very tight tables for one pocket.
Sherman Oaks has tight pockets.
I don't recall seeing you in that room.
I do remember scuttle butt about you dodging a game with Wayne back in the day.......
So, “new school” why don’t you post up some video of you playing the 9ball ghost on a table set up the way you describe.
I’m sure we’ll all learn something.
Lou Figueroa
Pool players are good at crying about equiptment.
Boohoo.
Boohoo.
Went many times while my mom was living in Burbank.
Sometimes I’d play 1pocket, other time 3C with the league guys, played Richie there. I think once the house guy wanted to call Wayne to play me but I had to get back to Burbank.
Lou Figueroa
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I think you made the right choice.