Identify these billiard balls

tpoppa

tpoppa

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Hello, based on this one photo is anybody able to identify the maker of these billiard balls?
 

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Thanks for the confirmation (y)
The guy I bought the table from just bought the house and the table came with it. He just wants it out of there and didn't have any information other than the table was about 5 years old.

I was expecting whatever cheap balls come free with a new table. So, Centennials are a bonus :)

I also wasn't sure if any cheaper balls are meant to look the same.
 
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tpoppa said:
Thanks for the confirmation (y)
The guy I bought the table from just bought the house and the table came with it. He just wants it out of there and didn't have any information other than the table was about 5 years old.

I was expecting whatever cheap balls come free with a new table. So, Centennials are a bonus :)

I also wasn't sure if any cheaper balls are meant to look the same.
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I’ve never seen a direct knock off of Centennials. Maybe someone else has?
 
Bob Jewett said:
They are Centennials, but if they are old, they could have been made by Albany/Hyatt instead of SALUC (which also makes Aramith). The change in manufacturer to SALUC happened about 1988.
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If I remember correctly, that change was accompanied by the change from a 'red dot' cue ball to the current 'blue dot' cue ball. Of course, I don't know how you'd ascertain whether the cue ball with your set is original to the set.
 
NevadaP said:
If I remember correctly, that change was accompanied by the change from a 'red dot' cue ball to the current 'blue dot' cue ball. Of course, I don't know how you'd ascertain whether the cue ball with your set is original to the set.
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no, the older sets were blue circle, NOT blue dot, as well. never seen any Cennt. balls with a rd./bd cueball.
 
garczar said:
no, the older sets were blue circle, NOT blue dot, as well. never seen any Cennt. balls with a rd./bd cueball.
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You are correct. I misspoke and got sloppy with my terminology. But I believe the current and modern Centennials have the 'blue circle' cue, while the older, pre-Aramith Centennials had the 'red circle'.
 
I remember blue circles (we called them blue dots) from the 70s like they'd always been around. Don't know where red circles came from but I suspect they were sold separately and just filtered into the Centennial "mass".
 
I have purchased many sets of Centennials starting in mid 80’s and I never saw a red dot/ circle cue ball included in the set.
In fact, my recollection is that the red circle CB’s are several grams lighter than the Centennial pool balls so it would be badly mismatched. Cue Balls and object balls should be the same weight & diameter or the pool balls will not play the same as a set of pool balls with identically matching weights. That’s the actual, irrefutable law of physics that every player should know.
 
here is an AI generated answer to red circle vs blue circle cue ball
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The primary differences between the Red Circle and Blue Circle cue balls lie in their material composition, density, and playing characteristics, despite both being manufactured by Aramith/Saluc and generally adhering to similar size specifications.

Material and Composition The Red Circle cue ball is made from carom resin, a harder, more resilient material that is less prone to staining and provides a "sluggish" or controlled feel. In contrast, the Blue Circle cue ball is made from standard pool ball phenolic resin (used in Brunswick Centennial sets), which is slightly softer and tends to play with a more "lively" response.

Playing Characteristics

  • Spin Retention: The Red Circle’s denser, carom-resin compound allows it to take and retain spin more effectively, making it easier to draw and harder to follow. The Blue Circle holds spin less aggressively, resulting in better line stability for safeties and easier follow shots.
  • Weight and Density: While many players perceive the Red Circle as lighter, experts note that new balls of both types weigh approximately the same (around 168 grams). The perceived difference in weight and behavior is due to density distribution; the Red Circle’s higher density and material composition affect how force is transferred, while the Blue Circle’s weight distribution may be more centered.
  • Durability: The Red Circle is noted for being more durable and resistant to chipping or staining compared to the Blue Circle, which can show wear and "bruising" more quickly.
Market Availability The Red Circle is the standalone standard cue ball used widely on professional tours and is available from any wholesaler. The Blue Circle is specifically bundled with Brunswick Centennial ball sets and was historically marketed through Brunswick dealers, though it is now more widely available.
 
how can a more dense ball be the same weight as a less dense one that is the same weight and size.

explain how it can be easier to draw and harder to follow. im not sure of that.
 
maha said:
how can a more dense ball be the same weight as a less dense one that is the same weight and size.

explain how it can be easier to draw and harder to follow. im not sure of that.
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Well, a light cue ball will draw more easily and a heavy ball will follow more easily. But the thread on ball weights says there is not much difference in the various types, as I recall.

Also important is how "elastic" the balls are. More elastic means less energy is lost in the ball-ball contact. A dead or inelastic ball will follow more easily and is harder to draw.

Personally, I wouldn't trust AI for this info.

As for a more dense ball ball of the same size being the same weight?!? I would definitely not trust AI on that one.
 
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