Discussion: Focusing on the cue ball compared to other sports

Frosty said:
Fools errand. I mean, do what you want, but numerous studies into the “quiet eye” indicate you should be focusing on your target. If you’re shooting a pistol or rifle at a target, are you looking at the weapon or your target? Think ab
Frosty said:
Fools errand. I mean, do what you want, but numerous studies into the “quiet eye” indicate you should be focusing on your target. If you’re shooting a pistol or rifle at a target, are you looking at the weapon or your target? Think about it.
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My first sentence says it all.
 
gregcantrall said:
My weapon is the cue, the target is the cueball.
Sighting down the cue is basic.
Striking the cueball accurately is also basic.
Some can strike accurately without looking. It's easier to learn when I watch what's happening at impact.
Practice with a phenolic tip and no chalk. Works for me.
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I wonder how much the choice is ingrained habit or need?? Good players might well be able to look at either and be fine. Depending on which you were taught first or learned to do, may have stuck with you throughout. Whether needed or not.
 
gregcantrall said:
My weapon is the cue, the target is the cueball.
Sighting down the cue is basic.
Striking the cueball accurately is also basic.
Some can strike accurately without looking. It's easier to learn when I watch what's happening at impact.
Practice with a phenolic tip and no chalk. Works for me.
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Do this on a snooker table with a regular set of balls. You'll dial in real quick and realize all that extra stuff you've been doing with your arm is worthless.
 
straightline said:
Gun not same as pool stick. Pool involves an articulated 3 segment shot system. Stick to ball, ball to ball, ball to wherever the actual target is. These segments are seldom in a straight line.
A gun is a self contained shooting system intended to damage a target, It must be pointed <at> the target.
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I just tossed that out there to get interest.
 
straightline said:
Gun not same as pool stick. Pool involves an articulated 3 segment shot system. Stick to ball, ball to ball, ball to wherever the actual target is. These segments are seldom in a straight line.
A gun is a self contained shooting system intended to damage a target, It must be pointed <at> the target.
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I think you make it into more than it is. It’s clear from your numerous posts and in your signature line that you are fully committed to looking at the cue ball last like other misguided players.

You also LOVE to point to Jason Shaw as he is one of the very few of a professional level that subscribe to this viewpoint. As others have posted in this thread, it’s clear the majority of elite players DON’T do this. Your rejoinder to that was the elite skilled will be elite irrelevant of this, then wouldn’t that apply to your constant example of Shaw?

Tor Lowry, a friend, and one of the most respected and in demand instructors in this sport as he’s constantly booked, believes and disseminates that actual cue placement on the cue ball should fall into the territory of the subconscious, things that you don’t think about once you reach a certain level of proficiency. As I also previously mentioned, numerous studies on “quiet eye” also indicate the greatest success is achieved by focusing on your target. But don’t let experts opinions dissuade you from your tenaciously held position, even if it’s wrong. Carry on
 
Frosty said:
I think you make it into more than it is. It’s clear from your numerous posts and in your signature line that you are fully committed to looking at the cue ball last like other misguided players.

You also LOVE to point to Jason Shaw as he is one of the very few of a professional level that subscribe to this viewpoint. As others have posted in this thread, it’s clear the majority of elite players DON’T do this. Your rejoinder to that was the elite skilled will be elite irrelevant of this, then wouldn’t that apply to your constant example of Shaw?

Tor Lowry, a friend, and one of the most respected and in demand instructors in this sport as he’s constantly booked, believes and disseminates that actual cue placement on the cue ball should fall into the territory of the subconscious, things that you don’t think about once you reach a certain level of proficiency. As I also previously mentioned, numerous studies on “quiet eye” also indicate the greatest success is achieved by focusing on your target. But don’t let experts opinions dissuade you from your tenaciously held position, even if it’s wrong. Carry on
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Love? I mentioned Shaw a couple times.
Lowry knows what he's talking about. Likeable delivery, doesn't always hit the mark.
Me misguided? The world of jocks is the land of the misguided. You simply like to inflate your position. BFD

One question, your wife is Chicago Player? I just have this vague recollection that they look. similar.

Got any actual argument?
 
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straightline said:
Love? I mentioned Shaw a couple times.
Lowry knows what he's talking about. Likeable delivery, doesn't always hit the mark.
Me misguided? The world of jocks is the land of the misguided. You simply like to inflate your position. BFD

One question, your wife is Chicago Player? I just have this vague recollection that they look. similar.

Got any actual argument?
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I don’t have a wife. I have no argument. Lowry doesn’t always hit the mark, he could barbecue you. As I said in my initial post, do what you like, even if it’s wrong. Have a great day 😁
 
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