Helped me in being correct.Post #73 was posted to be helpful for anyone who thinks it might be helpful
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Helped me in being correct.Post #73 was posted to be helpful for anyone who thinks it might be helpful
bbb trying to be a helpful member of azb![]()
Oh thanks for the chuckle zzz.!!!misguided players
As for the OP, it would be interesting to see before and after videos of him shooting including his eye pattern. I wonder if it was the "quiet eye" principle that gave him his perceived improvement.
Good thread. FYI, this topic is covered in detail on the eye pattern "best practices" resource page. Those interested in this topic should check out that entire page. Here's a video from the page that covers most of the important points:
Here's an excerpt from the page listing slight advantages of OB-last focus:
- The distant focus helps you maintain the desired aim since you can clearly see what is called the aiming “shot picture” at the OB (where your line of aim is relative to the OB that you see while “aiming while standing“).
- The distant focus helps you deliver the cue more straight toward your target. This is the case in other sports like with free throws in basketball (with focus on the rim), bowling (with focus on the arrows down the lane), baseball pitching (with focus on the target over the plate), horseshoes (with focus on the stake), and darts, archery, and shooting (with focus on the target), where you always want your final focused gaze to be at the distant target. This helps maintain straight aim and helps ensure straighter implement delivery in the target direction. Although, analogies with other sports are far from perfect (see more below).
- Focus on the OB helps ensure you keep your head and body still during and after the stroke, instead of looking up from CB focus to see where the CB is heading.
- With OB focus, you can better diagnose and learn from each shot since you can more clearly see the direction the CB heads and where it hits the OB, without needing to move your eyes or head during the shot.
Regardless, each person obviously needs to choose the eye pattern that is most effective for them an an individual.
Good shot!!Oh yeah. You brought it up. I was firing at Frosty.![]()
Thanks for adding that in Doc!!Every time a thread like this comes up, I add to and improve the eye pattern "best practices" resource page. I hope I am able to add even more insight from this thread. Check out the page if you haven't visited it before (or in a while). It is much more complete than it used to be.
Where's McCready when we need him!!I think you make it into more than it is. It’s clear from your numerous posts and in your signature line that you are fully committed to looking at the cue ball last like other misguided players.
You also LOVE to point to Jason Shaw as he is one of the very few of a professional level that subscribe to this viewpoint. As others have posted in this thread, it’s clear the majority of elite players DON’T do this. Your rejoinder to that was the elite skilled will be elite irrelevant of this, then wouldn’t that apply to your constant example of Shaw?
Tor Lowry, a friend, and one of the most respected and in demand instructors in this sport as he’s constantly booked, believes and disseminates that actual cue placement on the cue ball should fall into the territory of the subconscious, things that you don’t think about once you reach a certain level of proficiency. As I also previously mentioned, numerous studies on “quiet eye” also indicate the greatest success is achieved by focusing on your target. But don’t let experts opinions dissuade you from your tenaciously held position, even if it’s wrong. Carry on
I'm surprised you adhere to this so vehemently Frosty, when one of the best players we knew and dear friend of ours who's no longer with us, was a CB laster.I think you make it into more than it is. It’s clear from your numerous posts and in your signature line that you are fully committed to looking at the cue ball last like other misguided players.
You also LOVE to point to Jason Shaw as he is one of the very few of a professional level that subscribe to this viewpoint. As others have posted in this thread, it’s clear the majority of elite players DON’T do this. Your rejoinder to that was the elite skilled will be elite irrelevant of this, then wouldn’t that apply to your constant example of Shaw?
Tor Lowry, a friend, and one of the most respected and in demand instructors in this sport as he’s constantly booked, believes and disseminates that actual cue placement on the cue ball should fall into the territory of the subconscious, things that you don’t think about once you reach a certain level of proficiency. As I also previously mentioned, numerous studies on “quiet eye” also indicate the greatest success is achieved by focusing on your target. But don’t let experts opinions dissuade you from your tenaciously held position, even if it’s wrong. Carry on
Sometimes he would bob his head back and forth, sometimes crane his neck on tippy toes, more often than not, just get in position and one pump everything. If the stick's on...Where's McCready when we need him!!
A stationary CB is exactly why I don’t drink alcohol until after I am done playing pool.In pool, the CB is stationary so you know exactly where it will be at the moment of contact, and no fast reaction is required.
In my best Big tournament performance, on day 2.. I had at my table a glass of water a cup of coffee and a beer.A stationary CB is exactly why I don’t drink alcohol until after I am done playing pool.![]()
So Yogi Berra lived on land and water?? Did they practice billiards on land and water too???Well when a baseball hitter could hit from either side of the plate, Yogi Berra called them Amphibious. So Ronnie O'Sullivan shooting with either hand is Amphibious. His answer of, "it could be either " , when asked which ball last fits in his Amphibious persona.![]()
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Well that was a knuckle ball. Yogi is definitely a GOAT at catcher. Yogi Iszms is a whole catagory.....Google itSo Yogi Berra lived on land and water?? Did they practice billiards on land and water too???
Might want to look at your dictionary last, I think the word you are looking for is ambidextrous.
I use a real cue ball.A stationary CB is exactly why I don’t drink alcohol until after I am done playing pool.![]()