Savannah “The RoadRunner” Easton using a wood shaft?
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It's the forums, 99% of the stuff in here is just opinions. Plus I've never catched any attitude I kept responding calmly, the only time I catched attitude is when one guy straw man me saying stuff that I did NOT ever said....he went as wild as saying "every top pro if they switch to cf they will be #1" its not only a strawman, but its also something a very stupid man would say which I've never actually said, ever. That what made me go off.
Other than this, I've just kept stating opinions, of course they're my opinion because I am typing them
Anyways, again things in here aren't scientific, nor backed up by science... even Dr-dave as hard as he trys to make what he says a scientific or call them "Experiment" they're also opinions with few trial and errors, which by definition isn't science and do not comply with the scientific experiment methods.
Again, what I'm stating are my opinion and not facts for everyone but based of what I've witnessed the CF shaft will improve anyones game...if you played against someone with cf who can't pot a ball that does not dismiss nor diqualify what I've been stating...the CF will "improve" anyone's game if they give it a shot and be convicted to them. They will 100% improve your timing within a shot there's no question in my mind that they do. And pool, believe it or not, 90% mostly about timing; whenever you miss your timing, you will miss the shot, and if you have solid timing within every shot, then you'll be more consistent.
Okay buddy, whatever you say, I'm not reading all of that. Just share the name of whatever it is you're smoking so we can all attain your level of enlightenment.It's the forums, 99% of the stuff in here is just opinions. Plus I've never catched any attitude I kept responding calmly, the only time I catched attitude is when one guy straw man me saying stuff that I did NOT ever said....he went as wild as saying "every top pro if they switch to cf they will be #1" its not only a strawman, but its also something a very stupid man would say which I've never actually said, ever. That what made me go off.
Other than this, I've just kept stating opinions, of course they're my opinion because I am typing them
Anyways, again things in here aren't scientific, nor backed up by science... even Dr-dave as hard as he trys to make what he says a scientific or call them "Experiment" they're also opinions with few trial and errors, which by definition isn't science and do not comply with the scientific experiment methods.
Again, what I'm stating are my opinion and not facts for everyone but based of what I've witnessed the CF shaft will improve anyones game...if you played against someone with cf who can't pot a ball that does not dismiss nor diqualify what I've been stating...the CF will "improve" anyone's game if they give it a shot and be convicted to them. They will 100% improve your timing within a shot there's no question in my mind that they do. And pool, believe it or not, 90% mostly about timing; whenever you miss your timing, you will miss the shot, and if you have solid timing within every shot, then you'll be more consistent.
I know a few guys that are in their 60's and 70's that tried carbon fiber. They went from running rack after rack with their wood shafts to not being able to hit their ass with both hands with the carbon fiber. The switched back to the good old reliable wood shafts & everything was right again.
I say everyone should ditch the carbon fiber crap & go back to wood.
I'm convinced about this and nobody can change my mind.
I say everyone should ditch the carbon fiber crap & go back to wood.
I'm convinced about this and nobody can change my mind.
It’s a matter of practice, understanding the different shaft and getting used to it.
I jumped on the CF wagon and went back to wood but switched back and forth because I like both.
After trying CF, I can honestly say that for me LD wood is just fine as I don’t travel to play pool anymore. But if I had to buy a new shaft, I would go with CF.
Some of the ferrules on a few of my 314-2 shafts seemed to crack a bit, they are still playable but they will break eventually, I won’t fix them as there is no one around to do it, and shipping overseas is not worth it, so buying a new shaft is the only option, and I would go with CF for its better durability.
The future is composite materials, no logic in fighting it, might as well accept it and get used to it.
Full composite cues are already here, and that’s the next step.
Paul Bell
Well-known member
Three years ago, an AZer wanted to know if Savannah Easton had gone from using a Revo to a wood shaft---314 or maybe a Predator Vantage?
Later, she's advertised as using a Lucasi Pro kielwood carbon-fiber InFuzed shaft. Latest sighting in Michigan, however, is that she is using a Lucasi Pro Halo carbon fiber shaft. This took up about a page of posts.
The other seven pages of post are arguments whether wood is better than carbon fiber and that the Ko Brothers use wood shafts.
thanks for the reply
Can you write the titles of Fedor, Filler and Yapp - also include 3rd finishes as you did with the Kos, lets see if that fits one page thats without including a half page photo in the bottom. Also after their names add in yet the same exact winnings listed as "Combined" just write them again as you did with the KOs. Goodluck with that!
Ko Pin Yi won the 2015 World Pool Championship using a wooden shaft.
Carlos Biado won the 2025 World Pool Championship using a wooden shaft.
JOSHUA FILLER won the 2018 World Pool Championship using a wooden shaft. He has yet to win one with his CF Revo that he's been using for a few years now.
Kaci was runner up in 2024 with a wooden shaft.
Soufi was runner up in 2023 with a wooden shaft.
Your obsession with CF and claiming it's superior is horseshit.
Filler won the 2024 world 8 ball with CF. Also won other majors like the last UK open in what is already considered to be the greatest final performance ever.
CF is superior in many factors BUT won't make anyone a better player.
Agreed - 100%
Hard to argue with someone that provides facts and stats, unlike smoochie boy.
I agree, CF is definitely superior in terms of durability, consistency (meaning two shafts of the same brand will most likely be identical in how they play, compared to two wood shafts), and longevity. But my argument was mostly refuting his claim of it making players better in terms of performance, I just don't see it.
Consistency is more than just between shafts, it also consistently of the same shaft. Wood would play differently in different weather and humidity, CF will play the same.
Consistently of the same shaft may contribute to performance as the learning curve of new environment will be shorter. Top players can adjust faster but most players are not top 20
i never notice any difference in my wood shaft because of weather or anything else. thats all in the minds of those that have been fed it.
if you are having your ball squirt way over when you shoot you have stroke problems not shaft ones.
carbon fibre or something similar will be the shaft of the future though granted that. not because it makes you play better. just because it is easy to mass produce with little human input.
if you are having your ball squirt way over when you shoot you have stroke problems not shaft ones.
carbon fibre or something similar will be the shaft of the future though granted that. not because it makes you play better. just because it is easy to mass produce with little human input.
he's trying too hard to make wood look good, thats why he is cherry picking, meanwhile I wont cheery pick here ill just state facts.
First of, i didn't say a guy who plays with wood wouldnt win, all I said is that a great champion who uses wood will win, occesionaly, he will NOT dominate....but if he changes to CF then he'll start dominating more, which is something we kept seeing years over years, and i am sure that in 2030 more and more players will switch and the skill level will icnrease even more....
If you noticed the last few yrs alot of players have become more elitest, the skill have risen, all due to CF shafts and the new tech.
Ok here's facts, undisputed, unchallenged, are you ready?
here are men ranking as of today, it takes into consideration all major tournaments plus, to the right ill write if they use wood or cf.
1 Szewczyk, Wojciech (CF)
2 Biado, Carlo (wood)
3 Maciol, Daniel (CF)
4 Gorst, Fedor (CF)
5 Filler, Joshua (CF)
6 Kazakis, Alexander (CF)
7 Yapp, Aloysius (CF)
8 Zielinski, Wiktor (wood)
9 Oi, Naoyuki (CF)
10 Sanchez-Ruiz, Francisco (CF)
11 Ouschan, Albin (CF)
12 He, Mario (wood)
13 Grabe, Dennis (CF)
14 Kural, Szymon (CF)
15 Teutscher, Marco (CF)
16 Kasper, Stefan (CF)
17 Al-Awadhi, Bader (CF)
18 Wu, Kun-Lin (wood)
19 Lechner, Maximilian (CF)
20 Souto Comino, Jonas (CF)
Lets do a small calculation here, 4 out of 20 using wood, while 16 out of 20 using cf, to convert cf usage into percentage -> 16/20 *100 = Thats 80% out of the top players using carbon fiber, you can calculate this with your eyes, its not a coincidence and here there's no trickery or cherry picking. Facts don't lie.
I doubt that any of these is the result of using CF
this is flawed logic. it certainly may be part of them being at the top. but none of that shows that is the reason they are at the top. basically a form of syllogism.
many or most may be only playing with it because their sponsors require it.
or they get free equipment for it.
and likely all would be there anyway if using wood or whatever.
middleofnowhere
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Only a very small handful of players have the status to be payed to use a piece of equipment. How do you account for the hundreds of others men and women to play with CF?
many are following the hype or the crowd. as people do in all sorts of things.
***and many feel it makes them play better for whatever reasons, so it is valid for them to make the change.***
there is also much bad info on what they do, such as propel the cue ball better or make it go faster off the tip.
in reality all the cf shaft does "playing wise" is less squirt of the cue ball. and almost all decent players have mastered squirt and almost never miss a shot because of it.
newer players have a lot of trouble with it as they do not understand as well using english, and try to hit the cue ball exactly the same as not using english.
***and many feel it makes them play better for whatever reasons, so it is valid for them to make the change.***
there is also much bad info on what they do, such as propel the cue ball better or make it go faster off the tip.
in reality all the cf shaft does "playing wise" is less squirt of the cue ball. and almost all decent players have mastered squirt and almost never miss a shot because of it.
newer players have a lot of trouble with it as they do not understand as well using english, and try to hit the cue ball exactly the same as not using english.
Just because a shaft it made out of carbon fiber does not automatically equate to lower squirt.
Talk about bad info on what they do.