650 Fargo Quits Six Figure Job to Pursue Pro Pool Dream...or YouTube Fame?
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DieselPete
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I saw this a few days ago and commented. I wish him luck and all... but 650s are not uncommon, and very few make into the ranks of guys making a living as professional pool players unless their time at 650 was "just passing through" on their way up.
Regardless, I wanted to address the idea of him making an income as a YouTuber (because I do know a bit about this stuff). I have a friend that makes his living as a YouTuber (about $10k to $14k a month). He has nearly 250,000 subscribers* and his average video is watched about 80,000 times. He puts out a video almost every day to reach that income level.
It looks like this guy tried to be a YouTuber in the "pool tips" space for nearly seven years, accumulating 40,000 subscribers and his videos are watched an average of about 85,800 times each. There is a huge variance between his watched videos (over 200,000 views for several, and a few over 700,000) and the run of the mill videos with only a few thousand. So, he does have a monetized channel that makes some money. The problem, in terms of making a living, is that he isn't putting out enough content, and there probably isn't enough content to create on pool tips to engage people daily, or even a few times per week.
We'll see where it goes, both in terms of his playing level and the number of views he gets and the frequency of videos posted.
*Subscribers does not lead directly to payment. Your pay comes from views. However, the more subscribers you have, the more people your content is pushed to and they are more likely to watch video after video. So, subscribers and views can run hand in hand.
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We've seen a few players try to make the 10,000-hour idea work. At 650 Fargorate, I think this guy is starting farther along. He's currently 647 with robustness 291. I'd say 720 within a year is the minimum if he's going to make a living mostly by playing.
He could do what a lot of channels do: repackage ideas from other channels. That can work if you are an engaging presenter.
I wish him well
Also, if he is at all the pro tournaments he can generate a lot of content interacting with the other pros. There is a guy on TikTok that films short clips of him playing one rack against the top pros. Fedor has his own channels as well that can be good to watch.
Can't open the OP.... no comment, need more info.
How young is this man?
How young is this man?
Cord
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I guess I don't see anything wrong with that. It's certainly an easier path to $ than pro prool. Could be interesting to watch, too - sort of a 2026 vlog version of Tom Coyne's book. Here's hoping he does it well.
Then he’s not really trying to become a pool pro as his video claims, he's just trying to get clicks and sell ads.I guess I don't see anything wrong with that. It's certainly an easier path to $ than pro prool. Could be interesting to watch, too - sort of a 2026 vlog version of Tom Coyne's book. Here's hoping he does it well.
There must be something wrong with your browser, if you're referring to the YouTube video linked in the OP.
He's about 30.
I wouldn’t knock this guy for any reason. If he attains his goal, that would be phenomenal. However, I think we all have a pretty good idea of how this is going to go. He is a 650, so he has some talent. Low robustness means he might be able to get his number to move. Since he is completely changing everything about his life and game, he might be able to get a late push. 700 might be obtainable, but unlikely. 750 is what, one in a million? Odds of 800, no idea, but astronomical. Look at Nicks’ journey to obtain a legit Fargo, and maximize it. He estimated his speed at about 575, with zero robustness. He has played a lot of good pool. Sought out better players. Played under pressure, worked on his game He has enough robustness to be well established, he is about a 575, just like he said.
Edit, if he bumps his Fargo 30 points and makes a living do it, more power to him.
Thx Bob, then there may be a possibility of his dream.
Now if he's got the time, money, pool room/ and travel outta state and compete at least twice a month he'll know.... my guess he'll have to play about 30 hrs a week PLUS for a couple years straight. Also must do his road work and build up his core five days a week if he wants to try and get in the 700's.
Now if he's got the time, money, pool room/ and travel outta state and compete at least twice a month he'll know.... my guess he'll have to play about 30 hrs a week PLUS for a couple years straight. Also must do his road work and build up his core five days a week if he wants to try and get in the 700's.
I saw this too and I'm all for it. However, what defines a "pro" pool players (I know there's a thread somewhere about that). When he says pro does he mean he's going to make a living at pool or just play in "pro" tournaments? I don't know what his skill set is but if he's a 650'sh with less than 300 games then I'm going to guess getting to 700 is very achievable, not sure after that but I'll throw out 740 just for fun.
At the end of day, he will be able to say he at least tried, and there's nothing wrong with that.
At the end of day, he will be able to say he at least tried, and there's nothing wrong with that.
I looked at the AZB money list not too long ago, and my conclusion was you could make a reasonable living as a 770. If this guy also does lessons and YouTube, he could do OK. At this point, his YouTube is pretty much undeveloped with a total of 6 million views over 7 years. I just noticed that he also has a pool training app for Android and iOS.
SlopCounts
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I wish him the best too.
But realistically, if you're (a male) and not at least fargo 650 after 5+ years of daily practice it usually means your don't, and won't ever, have the natural ability- both mentally and physically- to reach say fargo 720 even.
Thousands of people practice pool daily but, in the end, natural ability is what plateaus 99% of those players at a non-pro level. And all the practice in the world won't help, they've hit their natural limit.
True outliers are extremely rare. A very small percentage of people are just born gifted.
But realistically, if you're (a male) and not at least fargo 650 after 5+ years of daily practice it usually means your don't, and won't ever, have the natural ability- both mentally and physically- to reach say fargo 720 even.
Thousands of people practice pool daily but, in the end, natural ability is what plateaus 99% of those players at a non-pro level. And all the practice in the world won't help, they've hit their natural limit.
True outliers are extremely rare. A very small percentage of people are just born gifted.
Are you sure? Because everyone favorite know it all argued with me on fb that every single person can become svb with enough practice. That natural ability wasn’t really a thing lol A 650 has a long way to go. It will take more then work to get you to high 700s to make a decent money at pool and win at that level. Who know maybe he has it. The real f you money here is you tube. Top you tubers are making a ton more money then the best pro player can even dream of. That’s where he will make his money trying to make it and people watching it if he gets enough subscribers. Good luck to him. There is an insane amount of money in YouTube and it’s getting more insane now that the big boy advertisers are realizing that’s the best way to reach customersI wish him the best too.
But realistically, if you're (a male) and not at least fargo 650 after 5+ years of daily practice it usually means your don't, and won't ever, have the natural ability- both mentally and physically- to reach say fargo 720 even.
Thousands of people practice pool daily but, in the end, natural ability is what plateaus 99% of those players at a non-pro level. And all the practice in the world won't help, they've hit their natural limit.
True outliers are extremely rare. A very small percentage of people are just born gifted.