SVB v. Fedor Gorst

[SA96]

last time they played both of them then reached the US open final..

And what did Fedor do in the Mosconi?

 

[AMF247]

ego?? thats for those that haven't made any accomplishment. no one that is great plays for ego.

if they did then they would never have gotten great.

Practicing humility while playing is what we all should do IMO and seemingly they do that well.
However, Respectfully, ego is of the biggest motivators. I guarantee these guys have an huge ego and it’s half or more of what has driven them their whole life.
You don’t get to the majors without major belief in yourself. That’s Ego

 

[dtroup64]

And what did Fedor do in the Mosconi?

Are you saying the Mosconi is more important than the US Open? Isn't the Mosconi a glorified exhibition?

 

[DieselPete]

Are you saying the Mosconi is more important than the US Open? Isn't the Mosconi a glorified exhibition?

Yeah, I'm intrigued by the idea that they should be preparing for the Mosconi cup and not "playing an exhibition."

If, separate from this thread, someone asked me to name the single biggest exhibition event in pool today, without hesitation I would say, "The Mosconi Cup."

As for whether there is enough money on the line or if the players see it as an exhibition, I am hoping that pride and a desire to win will be sufficient to have them both play the best pool they can play. We shall see. I don't think Fedor calling it an exhibition means he won't play hard. I think that could be him making a distinction from both tournament play and out-and-out gambling.

 

[fastone371]

what is important and hardly ever made public is what each one is getting guaranteed, not what they are so called playing for. that could be any amount.

20k directly to the winner to keep? and what does the loser get, nothing? if he gets anything then they are no longer playing for 20k. just the difference.
and of course how much of their own personal money is put up.

other wise its just an exhibition. with some amount going towards the winner.

Does it really make a difference if they have personal money invested?? I cant tell by watching the match if they are playing on their own dime or not.

 

[loggerhead12]

What about being the best?

That's why Eddie gave Vincent the money back.

 

[maha]

if not playing a large part on own money or putting a big part as an entry then it is too easy just to make a deal or if the first and second prizes are reasonably close not put out their all.
then as said its more of an exhibition.
and if most of the money involved comes from just playing then its a joke.

 

[u12armresl]

Scott Frost (who I think is involved in promoting these matches) asked Filler on the Boom and Freezer podcast if he'd play the winner and Filler said yes. Scott also got annoyed that Fedor had called the match an exhibition

What else can it be called, an exhibition tour? They aren't betting their own, pretty sure there is some sort of guarantee on the video side or show up money. It's just a glorified exhibition. TAR was the last of the real A plays B match where there was legit money bet and no BS.

 

[u12armresl]

Does it really make a difference if they have personal money invested?? I cant tell by watching the match if they are playing on their own dime or not.

YES, 100%. How many posts are there on here where "Fedor has his own money, Shane has their own money, both have stake horses" What does that tell you? They are incredible humans who want to spread the love of the game and let everyone have a piece?

Or, it's much better if they play matches for stupid amounts if they don't have any of it on their own. Alex seems to be one of the few who wants to put up $$$.

 

[uk_9_ball_convert]

What else can it be called, an exhibition tour? They aren't betting their own, pretty sure there is some sort of guarantee on the video side or show up money. It's just a glorified exhibition. TAR was the last of the real A plays B match where there was legit money bet and no BS.

I don't really care what people call it, just amused me that Scott was annoyed Fedor was calling it an exhibition and when I came on here everyone else is calling it that too. Think they are trying to promote it as a king of the hill event as the winner gets to stay on and play more people/have opportunity of gaining more cash.

 

[skogstokig]

Think they are trying to promote it as a king of the hill event as the winner gets to stay on and play more people/have opportunity of gaining more cash.

i seem to remember other such ventures, that never really took off.

 

[fastone371]

YES, 100%. How many posts are there on here where "Fedor has his own money, Shane has their own money, both have stake horses" What does that tell you? They are incredible humans who want to spread the love of the game and let everyone have a piece?

Or, it's much better if they play matches for stupid amounts if they don't have any of it on their own. Alex seems to be one of the few who wants to put up $$$.

So you are telling me you can tell who's dime they are playing on by watching a match??

 

[sudocrushms]

Monetary amount and who may/may not be backing aside, we all know these guys want to beat each other.

 

[u12armresl]

I don't really care what people call it, just amused me that Scott was annoyed Fedor was calling it an exhibition and when I came on here everyone else is calling it that too. Think they are trying to promote it as a king of the hill event as the winner gets to stay on and play more people/have opportunity of gaining more cash.

Then they could just as easily match up. This isn't 100,000 Pyramid.

 

[maha]

the promoters want to make money and if its called exhibition the viewing rights go out the window.
on it and the others.

 

[usakr]

In a long race it should be winner breaks.

 

[fastone371]

if not playing a large part on own money or putting a big part as an entry then it is too easy just to make a deal or if the first and second prizes are reasonably close not put out their all.
then as said its more of an exhibition.
and if most of the money involved comes from just playing then its a joke.

I suppose it all depends on the person, I don't want to get beat at anything even for nothing.

 

[fastone371]

YES, 100%. How many posts are there on here where "Fedor has his own money, Shane has their own money, both have stake horses" What does that tell you? They are incredible humans who want to spread the love of the game and let everyone have a piece?

Or, it's much better if they play matches for stupid amounts if they don't have any of it on their own. Alex seems to be one of the few who wants to put up $$$.

Does that mean that they don't try as hard as they can in tournaments because they might only have $1,000 invested while playing for $30K to win and don't have enough vested interest to bring their A game ???

 

[DieselPete]

Does that mean that they don't try as hard as they can in tournaments because they might only have $1,000 invested while playing for $30K to win and don't have enough vested interest to bring their A game ???

Yeah, honestly, I reject this whole idea that they won't play their best or "harderst" without their personal money on the line.

Even if an appearance fee reduces the amount they are really playing for, they are at least playing for enough to pay a
car payment and car insurance for one year. I think most of us would play hard for that.

 

[Baby Huey]

This is good news for the sport. Getting two of the best to face off, being able to pick sides on who wins and why, youth against age (so to speak) and predictions about the future of the game is what will fun to watch. I can't wait.