GCIV Update

[iusedtoberich]

If you play league/tournaments on Diamond tables, stick with Diamonds. Forget balls on the break, pro players make a ball about 50% of the time, the rest of us 5%-35%. So your opponent has the advantage most of the time after you break. Play second ball break or the cut break like the Chinese 8 ball players and bring the CB back up to the end rail.
The idea is to play defense on the break. Forget spreading 'em out and giving your opponent a clear open table.

God no! Safe break, yuk. I'd kick you out of the tournament for doing that if I was your TD. Does nothing but make games and tournaments take forever.

 

[Icon of Sin]

FYI here,
Remember how I always complained about how I rarely ever got a decent spread after the 9B break on my GCIV? And how that sort of prompted me to go and purchase the new Diamond Professional?



r/DCP

Actually I have no recollection of that.

 

[jay helfert]

FYI here,
Remember how I always complained about how I rarely ever got a decent spread after the 9B break on my GCIV? And how that sort of prompted me to go and purchase the new Diamond Professional?

For the first time in a few months I went downstairs and broke some racks of 9B on the Gold Crown IV today. After 17 break shots with not one chance of running out due to impossible spreads I just gave up. Just quit. Shut the lights out and came back upstairs.

Suddenly that Gold Crown VII is starting to seem more appealing.

r/DCP

Bad news. It ain't the table!

 

[fastone371]

If you play league/tournaments on Diamond tables, stick with Diamonds. Forget balls on the break, pro players make a ball about 50% of the time, the rest of us 5%-35%. So your opponent has the advantage most of the time after you break. Play second ball break or the cut break like the Chinese 8 ball players and bring the CB back up to the end rail.
The idea is to play defense on the break. Forget spreading 'em out and giving your opponent a clear open table.

He's playing 9 ball, a second ball break would be a foul unless the racker doesn't know how to rack.

 

[loggerhead12]

So you are saying after 17 breaks you had no look at the next ball after the break?? I find that beyond hard to believe. I suppose we have to take your word for it because you refuse to post a video to potentially work out the issue. I wonder how the rest of the world ever played rotation on the earlier GC's when never having a look at a ball after the break.

I don't think it's just the first ball. I think he wants a table that will set up more like this after the break:

 

[DrCue'sProtege]

Bad news. It ain't the table!

I think it might be.

I do not have the same problem on the Diamond Professional.

I believe I am going to have a very experienced table mechanic come over in October and take a look at the GCIV. Hopefully he will see something that might make things better.

 

[David in FL]

He's playing 9 ball, a second ball break would be a foul unless the racker doesn't know how to rack.

And any experienced player, let alone a pro, who isn't making balls off the break in 9 ball a helluva lot more than 50% of the time should probably take up darts...

 

[u12armresl]

I think it might be.

I do not have the same problem on the Diamond Professional.

I believe I am going to have a very experienced table mechanic come over in October and take a look at the GCIV. Hopefully he will see something that might make things better.

What in the world on a pool table could cause you to not be able to run out?

I've seen people roll a cue ball down the rail and see how a table rolls (far to one side or the other) and adjust. You're just not a player and refuse to adjust to situations, give up when things don't 100% go your way, and think that $$$ buys you a game.

 

[u12armresl]

And any experienced player, let alone a pro, who isn't making balls off the break in 9 ball a helluva lot more than 50% of the time should probably take up darts...

I play darts lol. Won a state title and I make balls more than 50% of the time, the dude just doesn't put in the work.

 

[David in FL]

I play darts lol. Won a state title and I make balls more than 50% of the time, the dude just doesn't put in the work.

Like pool, darts looks easy when you watch someone genuinely good play.

It's not!

 

[CajunPopeye]

Too many, it's humid posts to quote. Have any of you lived in South Louisiana during a summer?

 

[Mensabum]

I'm in north central Oklahoma. My little building where I have my table is around 500-550 square feet. I have a mini-split and a dehumidifier in there. I am having to empty the dehu once every 12 hours trying to keep humidity @50% or lower. It's ridiculous. Humid in a drought, and it's over 100° every day.

It's been ridiculous in the Midwest this year.

 

[Mensabum]

Too many, it's humid posts to quote. Have any of you lived in South Louisiana during a summer?

Sorry Hu, but why would I??

 

[jnwilliams]

Too many, it's humid posts to quote. Have any of you lived in South Louisiana during a summer?

how about SC? We definitely win the humidity competition........unfortunately

 

[lakeman77]

I don't think it's just the first ball. I think he wants a table that will set up more like this after the break:

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He's playing 9 ball, a second ball break would be a foul unless the racker doesn't know how to rack.

He's playing 9 ball, a second ball break would be a foul unless the racker doesn't know how to rack.

you are correct, my mind was stuck in 8 ball, thanks for pointing that out

 

[Nogbert]

I think it might be.

I do not have the same problem on the Diamond Professional.

I believe I am going to have a very experienced table mechanic come over in October and take a look at the GCIV. Hopefully he will see something that might make things better.

why not just get rid of the GCIV and move on. sounds like you have a table you are happy with now (the diamond pro)