PBS Women's 9 Ball World Championship

Jeanette, Gerda and Vivan probably had something like ten WPBA titles each, as well. Your comment is probably only valid from 2000-2003, when Allison and Karen slammed the door shut on the competition. Those were great years in women's pool.
I'd like to see a record of those 30+ wins. I seriously doubt it.
 
I'd like to see a record of those 30+ wins. I seriously doubt it.
OK I looked it up. Actually, Gerda has nine WPBA titles, but she also won a World 9ball title in 1995. I was way off on Vivian, who had just five WPBA titles. Jeanette had fifteen WPBA titles and a World Games gold medal. FYI, Jeanette and Gerda were probably both ranked in the WPBA top five for close to a decade. Vivian's best came before Allison arrived on the scene, but she held the number one ranking for a while, as did Jeanette.

The three of them combined for 29 WPBA titles, a World 9ball title and a World 9ball championship.
 
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OK I looked it up. Actually, Gerda has nine WPBA titles, but she also won a World 9ball title in 1995. I was way off on Vivian, who had just five WPBA titles. Jeanette had fifteen WPBA titles and a World Games gold medal. FYI, Jeanette and Gerda were probably both ranked in the WPBA top five for close to a decade. Vivian's best came before Allison arrived on the scene, but she held the number one ranking for a while, as did Jeanette.

The three of them combined for 29 WPBA titles, a World 9ball title and a World 9ball championship.
Thanks for clarifying this. As I'm sure you know most of Jeannette's titles were prior to Allison and Karen joining the tour. After Allison beat Jeannete in the Finals at the Bicycle Club everything changed. She and then Karen were the ones to beat for the next 10-15 years. They weren't really seriously challenged for supremacy on the women's tour. They must have faced each other in a dozen or more Finals.
 
Thanks for clarifying this. As I'm sure you know most of Jeannette's titles were prior to Allison and Karen joining the tour. After Allison beat Jeannete in the Finals at the Bicycle Club everything changed. She and then Karen were the ones to beat for the next 10-15 years. They weren't really seriously challenged for supremacy on the women's tour. They must have faced each other in a dozen or more Finals.

kelly fisher? or did she have some adapting difficulties in the beginning
 
kelly fisher? or did she have some adapting difficulties in the beginning
Twenty-five year ago, to which I have referred, Kelly Fisher was competing at snooker. The women's snooker tour folded in 2003, and that's when Kelly made the switch to American pool.
 
Thanks for clarifying this. As I'm sure you know most of Jeannette's titles were prior to Allison and Karen joining the tour.
Actually, eight of Jeanette's fifteen WPBA titles came AFTER Allison joined the tour. Allison began her WPBA career in 1995, but her first full year on the tour was 1996, and she reached #1 almost immediately. Still, Jeanette won a WPBA title in 1996, two in 1997, two in 1998, two in 1999 and one in 2004. She also won the World Games gold medal in Japan in 2001. Allison Fisher would have been in all nine of these fields, and in all but 2001, Allison was the #1 ranked player on the WPBA tour. Yes, Jeanette had more than her share of successes in her career against Allison, but as I noted, you were 100% correct if one looks at the years 2000-03, for Allison and Karen dominated women's pool to the extent you suggested.

It's nice to look back at the good old days. My recollections of the WPBA go all the way back to its formation in 1976, of which I learned from Fran Crimi, whom I had first met at the ACUI collegiate straight pool championships that same year. Geez, I was just 18 years old back then. They've come a long way.
 
Actually, eight of Jeanette's fifteen WPBA titles came AFTER Allison joined the tour. Allison began her WPBA career in 1995, but her first full year on the tour was 1996, and she reached #1 almost immediately. Still, Jeanette won a WPBA title in 1996, two in 1997, two in 1998, two in 1999 and one in 2004. She also won the World Games gold medal in Japan in 2001. Allison Fisher would have been in all nine of these fields, and in all but 2001, Allison was the #1 ranked player on the WPBA tour. Yes, Jeanette had more than her share of successes in her career against Allison, but as I noted, you were 100% correct if one looks at the years 2000-03, for Allison and Karen dominated women's pool to the extent you suggested.

It's nice to look back at the good old days. My recollections of the WPBA go all the way back to its formation in 1976, of which I learned from Fran Crimi, whom I had first met at the ACUI collegiate straight pool championships that same year. Geez, I was just 18 years old back then. They've come a long way.
How many wpba titles did Allison win? Same question for Karen? And in what years? It would be interesting to compare their records with the others you mention.
 
How many wpba titles did Allison win? Same question for Karen? And in what years? It would be interesting to compare their records with the others you mention.
Eyeballing the list, I counted 58 WPBA titles for Allison. I count just 18 WPBA titles for Corr but, while about Allison's age, Karen did not join the WPBA tour until 1999, four years after Allison. Karen's career in pool was quite a bit shorter than Allison's, but in the years in which she competed, she was brilliant.

Allison's first WPBA title came in 1995 and her last came in 2024.

Karen's first WPBA title came in 2000 and her last came in 2017.
 
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In spite of better outcome last year (actually winning the same event), I still think Seoa is playing noticeably better overall than back then.

But Chou has been in top form lately, I had her in my top 3 of most likely to win this event when it started.

Until the finals, Seoa was playing the best I have seen here play. She was pocketing a ball in on most breaks, playing at a faster pace and playing with obvious confidence. A few years ago she was slower, less powerful and more timid.

I do wonder if Capito has been working with her with the break. We don't see women play 9-ball as much as the men since there is no W-WNT. Some of the women really dialed in their break in the Bali event, but many did not.

The women aren't as consistent as men with breaking. Not playing with a template is a big part of the issue, but I suspect it's not the only one.

I thought Chou was on, and Seoa off, almost from the get-go. The break was a clear tell.

Maybe it's me, but it seems that when great players are off, or having a bad day/match, it's almost always evident right away. And rarely do they seem to find their way back into the match.
 
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