Pagulayan 6 Balls On Break But.......

[jasonlaus]

The cloth is crazy fast on that table. Not just new-fast, but just-put-on- fast. Cloth on a finals table should at least be broken in. Everyone knows that fast cloth is basically unplayable until you've put a day or two of play on it. Having played a lot on 760 that I just installed, it's basically just nonsense for the first hour or two. The cueball is slipping everywhich way and holding onto spin in ways that are unnatural and alien to most players. I believe the cloth in that tournament was Championship brand, which I'm told is really fast.

Trying to hold the cueball from the 6 was just too difficult to do with that angle, he should have taken his medicine and let the cueball travel.

Championship was a great bar box cloth

 

[DieselPete]

Nope, had a friend make 7 and was dead froze to the back of the 9 near the spot and the 8 near the other spot, missed the kick. BIH, end of story.

Equally amazing was it was the 8 and 9 left

Interesting.

Keep in mind that only things recorded on video count for record-keeping purposes.

: )

 

[fastone371]

The cloth is crazy fast on that table. Not just new-fast, but just-put-on- fast. Cloth on a finals table should at least be broken in. Everyone knows that fast cloth is basically unplayable until you've put a day or two of play on it. Having played a lot on 760 that I just installed, it's basically just nonsense for the first hour or two. The cueball is slipping everywhich way and holding onto spin in ways that are unnatural and alien to most players. I believe the cloth in that tournament was Championship brand, which I'm told is really fast.

Trying to hold the cueball from the 6 was just too difficult to do with that angle, he should have taken his medicine and let the cueball travel.

Years ago I played in a tournament that had brand new Championship on Valley barboxes, while warming up I tried a 3 rail kick and watched the cue ball make very obvious curves off of each rail, at that point I had never seen anything like that.

 

[fjk]

There's a polar and counterintuitive thing about balls on the break. More balls equals easier runs? Uh Uh. One or two is probably optimal.

You're gonna need to explain that one.

 

[straightline]

You're gonna need to explain that one.

The benefits teeter from good to bad - non scientific guesstimate, at 3 balls you're probably sailing. At 4 balls, you're looking at long banks and cuts to start on.

Also less defensive cover.

 

[fjk]

The benefits teeter from good to bad - non scientific guesstimate, at 3 balls you're probably sailing. At 4 balls, you're looking at long banks and cuts to start on.

Also less defensive cover.

Understand on less defensive cover, but you always have a push.

 

[straightline]

Al

Understand on less defensive cover, but you always have a push.

Yeah but those are - to me, anti run and often lame - guys push on perfectly makeable stuff and runs. Besides, the point was the high polarity of balls on the break.

 

[Mensabum]

At the BCA tournament years ago in Las Vegas Alex Pagulayan made six balls on the break.

But he did not - NOT - get out!

He makes a poor position play from the 6B to the 8B and left himself tough.

At times this gives me hope when I hose up racks.

r/DCP

At the BCA tournament years ago in Las Vegas Alex Pagulayan made six balls on the break.

But he did not - NOT - get out!

He makes a poor position play from the 6B to the 8B and left himself tough.

At times this gives me hope when I hose up racks.

r/DCP

Anybody notice he isn't using his own CF shaft. Looks like wood to me!! Must be an older vid.

 

[sjm]

Anybody notice he isn't using his own CF shaft. Looks like wood to me!! Must be an older vid.

My best guess is that this match took place in 2002.

 

[DrCue'sProtege]

My best guess is that this match took place in 2002.

Didn't the BCA start this tournament in 1999? I went in 1999, 2001, and 2002.

I believe it was the only tournament of the year where the men and women played alongside each other.

The first three years the preliminary rounds were up in the penthouse of the Riviera. Then starting in 2002 they moved them down to the big room on the main floor.

I could be wrong here. Somebody do some digging.

r/DCP

 

[sjm]

Didn't the BCA start this tournament in 1999? I went in 1999, 2001, and 2002.

I think it goes back a few years further than that.

I believe it was the only tournament of the year where the men and women played alongside each other.

That sounds right, at least in the US. The men and women always shared the venue at the European Championship events and at some other Euro-tour stops.

The first three years the preliminary rounds were up in the penthouse of the Riviera. Then starting in 2002 they moved them down to the big room on the main floor.

Yup, remember it well. The most memorable match I saw up there was when largely unknown Marcus Chamat topped Earl Strickland. I'm guessing that was in 1998.

 

[JAM]

At the 7-Ball Challenge at ESPN in Baltimore, MD, promoted by Allen Hopkins, et al., Danny Harriman broke the balls and made 6 balls out of 7 on the break. I think that was 2004, subject to check.

The video with Alex and Santos is an oldie but goodie. I always enjoy watching Alex. He puts a smile on everybody's face.

Does anybody remember when Alex returned to her designated chair at another event on the TV table, and his cues or case started smoking, as if they were on fire? It was really odd. I wish I could remember when and where that happened.