Maybe plan a rebreak either with a wasted shot or something like a 14.1 break shot?
Doing 15 more than half the time (now in 25 strokes) is supposed to be Efren/Gorst/Filler level of play.
“ALL IN ONE” Progressive Practice Drill – Billiard University Playing Ability Exam IX
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Maybe plan a rebreak either with a wasted shot or something like a 14.1 break shot?
Doing 15 more than half the time (now in 25 strokes) is supposed to be Efren/Gorst/Filler level of play.
Yeah. Good idea. For a while I was starting with a one-ball carom shot off the remaining balls in the stack pushing things apart and moving the one towards the hole. This was OK, but ended up with a lot of balls by the opposite corner. 12-15 really is challenging. It makes sense that 15 is GOAT territory.
-td
If you can get 1 out of 3 at Level 15 with the new 25-stroke limit, you should be happy. Level 15 is meant to challenge even the best players.
If it isn’t, we need to make it harder. Hopefully, more players will try it and let us know how they do.
To be fair, mostly 0 out of 3 for level 13-15. Getting 1 at level 13 @26 strokes is definitely rewarding [now at 25, it's super challenging].
FWIW, I am able to run 30+ in K-ball, but this is another level.
-td
i tried this but don´t know why i did not like it much. Maybe because i need to count, or use counter..
(Offtopic but maybe this is reason i don´t like this now I try later..)
Had nice tournament last weekend. Won 2 shootouts=race to 1 winner takes all, 800€ and 930€ pots that i shared with my student. We got there and decided split all money from shootouts because they are so hard to win and he is good enough win those too.. 5th on main tournament and lost quarterfinal to my pool student 5-7 who ran 4 run outs and kick 2 times ball in from my safe and ran out those too. Both missed one ball. He got good money finishing second and opponent did not miss a ball in final. He did fly to Spain to play Eurotour this weekend. Pretty strong for guy who played 3 and half years.. Still somewhat inconsistent but aren´t we all?
I got tournament next weekend too.. Maybe i just want to practice for that now..
(Offtopic but maybe this is reason i don´t like this now I try later..)
Had nice tournament last weekend. Won 2 shootouts=race to 1 winner takes all, 800€ and 930€ pots that i shared with my student. We got there and decided split all money from shootouts because they are so hard to win and he is good enough win those too.. 5th on main tournament and lost quarterfinal to my pool student 5-7 who ran 4 run outs and kick 2 times ball in from my safe and ran out those too. Both missed one ball. He got good money finishing second and opponent did not miss a ball in final. He did fly to Spain to play Eurotour this weekend. Pretty strong for guy who played 3 and half years.. Still somewhat inconsistent but aren´t we all?
I got tournament next weekend too.. Maybe i just want to practice for that now..
Sounds like a “first-world problem.”
Maybe... There are many drills also i like but i never do because they are slow and hard to set up.
I used to like play vs myself but i always forgot is is player one or 2.. and this drill i noticed i forget to push counter when i start get focused.
Then I need to try remember how many shots i missed on counter and focus is gone..
Maybe it would be fun if do it with friend and another keeps score when another shoots..
Or just take a video and count from it afterwards.
Doc,
your drills always shatter my illusions of grandeur in how well I think I play.
My delusions are in tatters.
Agreed.
Yep. Just finish every rack to completion and check the count later.
Doc,
your drills always shatter my illusions of grandeur in how well I think I play.
My delusions are in tatters.
... then Bob and I must have done a good job.
If the game were easy, it wouldn't be fun.
Does anybody else who tried this have any more feedback or suggestions before we finalize things?
kanzzo
hobby player
i dont quite get the purpose of playing one pocket ghost in rotation
if this counts as an suggestion
ive been sick now 4 days. I wanted to give this a try to figure out why i did not like it.i dont quite get the purpose of playing one pocket ghost in rotation
if this counts as an suggestion
Now when I think this, you nailed it. It does not transfer directly to any game.
Also you need to "give up" a lot. admit defeat and roll out. I don´t like that.
I don´t want bash things but I feel this one is not so good as it sounds first.
Just some thoughts..
. I’ll try again!
Here are the reasons mentioned in the video:
- You get practice with ALL important skills including ball pocketing, CB direction control, and speed control (especially finesse speed control often required in effective safety play).
- AO also gives you good practice controlling both the CB and OB, which is an important skill to have for many types of safeties.
- AO is also good practice for the great game of One Pocket; but even if you never play One Pocket, you can benefit a lot from “All in One.”
- The best thing about AO is it is appropriate and fun for players at all levels from complete novice to world-class pro.
kanzzo
hobby player
Guess, what I meant is: One Pocket Ghost with 15 balls (not playing them in rotation) is a great practice game needing all the skills you described. And it's so tough, that it's still a challenge for the likes of Alex Pagulayan or John Schmidt. It's about as tough to run 15 balls in one pocket ghost as it is running 100 in straight pool.
And 15 ball rotation (using all 6 pockets) is also tough as hell and challenging for the best of the best like SVB, Pagulayan or Reyes.
Whats the point in making it even tougher?
But then, what do I know? Last challenge (draw matrix drill) I though was ingenious and worldwide there were like 4 players giving it a try...
And 15 ball rotation (using all 6 pockets) is also tough as hell and challenging for the best of the best like SVB, Pagulayan or Reyes.
Whats the point in making it even tougher?
But then, what do I know? Last challenge (draw matrix drill) I though was ingenious and worldwide there were like 4 players giving it a try...
KINGSCOURT905
New member
I had the same first reaction as kanzzo — playing everything to one pocket in rotation felt a bit artificial at first, and I wondered how much of it would carry over to a real game.
What sold me on it after trying it was the cue-ball part. Because you can't just take the easy pocket, you have to plan two or three balls ahead to get back to the right end of the table, and the stroke limit keeps you honest about it — you can't just keep nudging balls around until something drops. I found that part carried over more than I expected, especially the habit of thinking about where the cue ball needs to finish, not just where the object ball is going.
I still wouldn't use it as my only practice, but as a once-a-week check on pattern play and cue-ball control, I think it's a useful one.
What sold me on it after trying it was the cue-ball part. Because you can't just take the easy pocket, you have to plan two or three balls ahead to get back to the right end of the table, and the stroke limit keeps you honest about it — you can't just keep nudging balls around until something drops. I found that part carried over more than I expected, especially the habit of thinking about where the cue ball needs to finish, not just where the object ball is going.
I still wouldn't use it as my only practice, but as a once-a-week check on pattern play and cue-ball control, I think it's a useful one.