I'm not realy sure? I know that funny to say, but I love this cue and Mike was such a great friend. Mike and I were talking before he passed about selling this cue. He said not to take a dollar less then $7,000. Mike said for months this was one of his fav. cues and if someone came to him to make it again it would be $7,500. So to answer your question, I don't know. I do know it would need to be over $7,500. Anything less then that and I would keep it and get a loan for any money I may need. Thank you for your iterest in Mikes cues. I wish everyone could get to play with one of his cues. They are great. Matt