Anyone know how to tell if a schon is from the runde era?

[Bavafongoul]

Probably Not A Runde Schon

I've yet to see a cue made by Bob while he was at Schon from 1981 to erly 1992 that didn't come with sharp points. Now a cue might have been made by Schon while Bob was still an owner but it probably wasn't made by him at Schon. Towards the end of his tenure as co-founder of Schon cues, Bob's perosnal production of Schons was diminishing.

After leaving Schon, any cues made under Runde's name usually had sharp points as well. He really wasn't a fan of CNC points and it's hard to imagine any cue owner actually preferring CNC type points over sharp or spliced points. And as a cue-maker extraordinaire, it's even more implausible to think Bob would vary his approach to cue-making since he took pride in the precision and look of the sharp points on cues he made.

Anyway, dollar to a nickel this particular Schon was manufactured by Evan Clarke which means it still qualifies it as a really solid, great hitting cue. Nothing wrong with Schons no matter who the cue-maker might have been........it's a great cue.

 

[atthecat]

I've yet to see a cue made by Bob while he was at Schon from 1981 to erly 1992 that didn't come with sharp points. Now a cue might have been made by Schon while Bob was still an owner but it probably wasn't made by him at Schon. Towards the end of his tenure as co-founder of Schon cues, Bob's perosnal production of Schons was diminishing.

After leaving Schon, any cues made under Runde's name usually had sharp points as well. He really wasn't a fan of mitered points and it's hard to imagine any cue owner actually preferring CNC type points over sharp or spliced points. And as a cue-maker extraordinaire, it's even more implausible to think Bob would vary his approach to cue-making since he took pride in the precision and look of the sharp points on cues he made.

Anyway, dollar to a nickel this particular Schon was manufactured by Evan Clarke which means it still qualifies it as a really solid, great hitting cue. Nothing wrong with Schons no matter who the cue-maker might have been........it's a great cue.

exactly!!!!!!

 

[onefastmfn71]

I've yet to see a cue made by Bob while he was at Schon from 1981 to erly 1992 that didn't come with sharp points. Now a cue might have been made by Schon while Bob was still an owner but it probably wasn't made by him at Schon. Towards the end of his tenure as co-founder of Schon cues, Bob's perosnal production of Schons was diminishing.

After leaving Schon, any cues made under Runde's name usually had sharp points as well. He really wasn't a fan of mitered points and it's hard to imagine any cue owner actually preferring CNC type points over sharp or spliced points. And as a cue-maker extraordinaire, it's even more implausible to think Bob would vary his approach to cue-making since he took pride in the precision and look of the sharp points on cues he made.

Anyway, dollar to a nickel this particular Schon was manufactured by Evan Clarke which means it still qualifies it as a really solid, great hitting cue. Nothing wrong with Schons no matter who the cue-maker might have been........it's a great cue.

Where are you getting your information? It has been well documented that Schon made CNC point cues from the late 1980's up until Bob left.

Quote from Blue Book of Pool Cues: "By the 1990's, Schon cues had inlaid points"

And another thing you are dead wrong about. Runde(not Schon) cues had BOTH milled and spliced points. Most of his early cues were 100% milled points. Up until around 2002 his spliced point cues were denoted with a special logo. Example: A milled point cue would be marked Runde 02 and a spliced point would be marked Runde 02-S. His offerings in recent years have been fully spliced points, but he did make many milled point cues after leaving Schon.

 

[Fast Lenny]

What about this one with the ivory inlays, it has sharp points, is it a Runde or not?

 

[onefastmfn71]

What about this one with the ivory inlays, it has sharp points, is it a Runde or not?

100% Runde and a beauty at that. It looks like it is a SP-22 butt sleeve with a SP-8 forearm. VERY NICE!!!!

I wish my SP-8 had those points.

 

[Fast Lenny]

100% Runde and a beauty at that. It looks like it is a SP-22 butt sleeve with a SP-8 forearm. VERY NICE!!!!

I wish my SP-8 had those points.

I am curious what model it is though, I know it looks a good deal like a mix of those two models you listed.

 

[onefastmfn71]

I am curious what model it is though, I know it looks a good deal like a mix of those two models you listed.

Maybe an SP-8/22 , seriously though I doubt your cue was ever assigned a model number.

Schon made some cues with mixed model parts. I have seen quite a few variations over the years.

I own a R-16 "inspired" custom 6-point. It is definitely not a cue that was ever offered in a brochure. There's lots of neat stuff like this floating around out there :thumbup:.

 

[PDX]

All squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are square.
82-87 roughly the sharp point era.
82-85 are roughly the stitch ring time frame, where the nickel ring was an upgrade.
85 was when nickel ring became the norm
87 was the first year of CNC exclusively, bob left in 93.

93 has the odd pin and schon on joint collar with some having the 13, 12.5 or 12 imprinted to indicate tip size.

94 to present schon on shaft vertically.

You can still order a schon with stitch ring if you want. Like it was posted before, bobs early solo cues are milled until 02-S was inscribed in the butt(95-02). As far as I know, The only real way to tell Runde era is the pin. Runde era shafts will not fit on new schons or bobs cues. IIRC, the minor diameter is greater on "Runde era" schons which is technically 81-93, but there have been a few stories of people buying a schon in 79 than I have heard.

Almost forgot, bob said he his old cues were not cored, where I believe the new schons are cored, as are bobs cues. Look down at the wood by the pin and follow the grain line. Hope this helps.

 

[boyersj]

I know this thread is slightly old but pertinent to my question. I am looking to but a cue that looks like an SL5 but also could be a SP49. Other than the pin and shaft collar for 1993 (I have one of these, so I am very familiar with it how can you tell during this transition period? My dad and uncle each have a SP model and they hit awesome. Mine hits really good too but I know that if it is a SL5 it will hit like my ST11, but if it is a SP49, it will hit like my dad's. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks

 

[MalibuMike]

So Are the Cues with the ODD almost hollowed out Pins Runde's or Later?

So Are the Cues with the ODD almost hollowed out Pins Runde's or Later?
I have one R14 with ODD Pin and One Without. Also Have an LTD 8**? ONE of One, it was the only one in the batch with a bacote forearm, it too has an odd Pin? Any info thanks!

 

[Keith E.]

Is a red, white and black SP-30 a Runde Schon?

Thanks,
Keith

 

[tim913]

Top one is my R2 and the bottom one is a custom from that era

 

[RBNTN]

Im interested.

 

[garczar]

Im interested.

read the date bro. NINE yrs ago.