Nick Varner
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Jay Helfert and I have never seen eye to eye on Mike Sigel vs Nick Varner. Jay felt Sigel was an ever-so-slightly better around player. To be fair, it is a very close call.
In my mind I see Varner as being Cokes driven. Sigel on the other hand, hasn't that kind of known association or rep. even though I have no doubt the lineage is all heavies. Is he a descendant of Bugsy?
That's the way I play. Balls go up table for no other reason than that's what they used to do when I was watching/...
Larry Hubbart, the Iceman, had a lot to do with Sigel’s early career.
Yeah I gather he got him outta school (lol) to go make money.
I agree. Nick as the all around was better than Mike by a hair, a small thin hair.
Maybe 1P is why. If we break it down to a granular level.
Nick is a great great guy who I’m proud to call a friend. When he was captain of the Mcup I spent a good bit of time with him, my absolute best memories from pool. I was beyond lucky to be there for that.
I’m super late to this thread or early for next years bday
Fatboy <——just happy to have had the experiences I’ve had.
L.S. Dennis
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Absolutely mind boggling!!!!!
Prime Time Nick Varner didn't wedge every single game. That is a bit of a myth. People speak as if he couldn't run 8 and out as easy as anyone. Nick rarely saw an offensive shot he didn't like. Killers at that level were first and foremost the best shotmakers in the world. And aggressive. Especially against the majority of the opponenets he faced. JHe used to visit St Louis in the 80s/90s giving all of the local players big spots and taking all the money (that is what I've been told, at least). The wedge wasn't required. That was only for champions he needed to torture and was smart enough not to leave a single opportunity. Players at his level have different gears depending on their opponent. Nick even said that he loved playing Mike Sigel, because Mike brought out his very best game and he had a good tournament record against him.
What do you guys mean by Wedge?
in one pocket all the balls get driven to a corner in the kitchen (wedged in the corner)
from there it takes a long time to get a shot at your pocket
Does it matter which side?
Not to call it a wedge
Some say
They want it opposite of their pocket
So if a ball dribbles into the kitchen pocket and has to spot
They have a spot shot albeit over the top of the balls in the wedge
Others say.
They want it on their side
So when a ball loosens up they might have a bank to their pocket
Which side do you guys think is best?
I hear people talk about the wedge like it's some sacred ground (that guy Box from the Daniel Busch videos) I never get that deep into the game. All down table and shoot up table as a last resort.
