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What killed the slip stroke?
- Thread starter cuetechasaurus
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That's the main definition on the forums. During the last backwards stroke, the cue remains somewhat stationary, while the hand slips backwards on the butt. The hand eventually gets some traction to the butt, and they move in unison, pulling the butt back slightly more, then stroking it forward.
I started in the 90's, and think I've only seen a handful of players do this.
The reason for the distinction is the fact that they are completely different strokes
More accurate descriptions allows discussions to be about the specific stroke
And not discussing 2 different things thinking the other poster is discussing the one they are discussing as happened in this thread
The thread started as a discussion. It seemed to me of the Jimmy Moore style of a true slip stroke.
Then we got short clips of a stroke slip with the poster, thinking he was posting examples of slip stroke
Perfect example why it’s important to make a distinction
JMHO
ICBW
Eah... I think they're easy to keep track of.
Slip stroke
Toss stroke
No dyslexia pills required.
Slip stroke
Toss stroke
No dyslexia pills required.
As long as there’s something that makes a distinction between the twoEah... I think they're easy to keep track of.
Slip stroke
Toss stroke
No dyslexia pills required.
That will help to alleviate confusion
The slipstroke has it's merits and many of the old time players that didn't use it as their primary stroke practiced it enough to keep it in their bag of tricks. I used to have video of Willie Mosconi practicing that showed him using a slipstroke purely to practice it. In play, it is very useful whenever your stroke is cramped for any reason, balls jammed together or cue ball jammed to the rail are some examples. A top local shortstop noticed me practicing the slipstroke. We started shooting table length cut shots with the cue ball frozen on the head rail. He exclaimed, "You can't miss shooting like this!" A bit of an exaggeration but some indication of how much more natural your arm motion can feel compared to how constrained the shot would feel using a different stroke.
Aside from anything else, the slipstroke is a thing of beauty, an artform. I would hate to see it entirely lost.
Hu
Aside from anything else, the slipstroke is a thing of beauty, an artform. I would hate to see it entirely lost.
Hu
Nappy hair.
I wouldn't recommend trying to incorporate a slip into your stroke for any reason. I've seen players on both ends of the spectrum try this and they inevitably picked up glitches and bad habits from it that are hard to eliminate once there.
Only extremely skilled players can mess around with this.
You don't need a slip to draw. Just good wrist.
Only for that level player.
Smoother than peanut butter.
It adds another level of complexity to the stroke that most will never need or know how to use.
Credit where credit is due Hu... Yours was like PB&J bro.
I was at that US open final and I can still see Jose in my mind mimicking JJ and the towel afterwards.
I think a good way to differentiate would be:
Slip and Stroke
Stroke and Slip
Slip and Stroke
Stroke and Slip
Or just say slip stroke. Sorry, maybe it is changing times. I don’t think there should be any confusion using the term that has always been used. But admittedly the slip stroke isn’t used much so people haven’t seen it. Maybe it is me seeing a guy when I first started playing who had a big slip stroke. Wish I could do it. But as said above, the people who use it effectively probably never thought much about it. And there is a reason it is rare or dead.
it adds as much complexity as you breaking your wrist on the stroke.
and its not dead but rarely used as the fast cloths don't call for it. pool has changed a lot with time as most sports. and those in the present usually cant fathom what worked in the past.
or how good those players really were. and how bad the modern player in the pool room is compared to previous decades back.
and its not dead but rarely used as the fast cloths don't call for it. pool has changed a lot with time as most sports. and those in the present usually cant fathom what worked in the past.
or how good those players really were. and how bad the modern player in the pool room is compared to previous decades back.
Tha
That's the action.
I agree w most of that except the modern player bit. Some of these guys are capable of handing me my ass on any given day if they catch a gear.
yea but in the past, half the pool room sitting on the rail could do it to you unless you were say a regular 50 ball runner at straight pool or better.
i still think of this older guy george that for years just watched and hung out in a chair every day. he was some kind of delivery driver.
one day people were discussing some spot in 9 ball and one player who was just short of being a short stop said hell ill take that game from anyone here for 20 a game. this is 1970's.
george said you got it. grabbed one of the wall, the guy laughed but it happened. and he had to quit after george ran out about 7 or 8 racks on the 5 by10.
i still think of this older guy george that for years just watched and hung out in a chair every day. he was some kind of delivery driver.
one day people were discussing some spot in 9 ball and one player who was just short of being a short stop said hell ill take that game from anyone here for 20 a game. this is 1970's.
george said you got it. grabbed one of the wall, the guy laughed but it happened. and he had to quit after george ran out about 7 or 8 racks on the 5 by10.