What killed the slip stroke?

[iusedtoberich]

maybe that's why he dries his hands with a towel every shot..

Ask Parica!

 

[iusedtoberich]

i've read this correction before but always forget it. i don't see any use for a slip stroke of this definition whatsoever

That's the main definition on the forums. During the last backwards stroke, the cue remains somewhat stationary, while the hand slips backwards on the butt. The hand eventually gets some traction to the butt, and they move in unison, pulling the butt back slightly more, then stroking it forward.

I started in the 90's, and think I've only seen a handful of players do this.

 

[bbb]

i've read this correction before but always forget it. i don't see any use for a slip stroke of this definition whatsoever

I don't see a need for a special or sequential distinction. They can be defined in as much detail as your publisher wants but there are only two of 'em. The first one is well known and the new one is a toss stroke that has to be caught - technically a slip.

Here's the logic as offered by KPY:
Once you let go of the stick it has to travel in a straight line.

The reason for the distinction is the fact that they are completely different strokes
More accurate descriptions allows discussions to be about the specific stroke
And not discussing 2 different things thinking the other poster is discussing the one they are discussing as happened in this thread
The thread started as a discussion. It seemed to me of the Jimmy Moore style of a true slip stroke.
Then we got short clips of a stroke slip with the poster, thinking he was posting examples of slip stroke
Perfect example why it’s important to make a distinction
JMHO
ICBW

 

[straightline]

Eah... I think they're easy to keep track of.
Slip stroke
Toss stroke

No dyslexia pills required.

 

[bbb]

Eah... I think they're easy to keep track of.
Slip stroke
Toss stroke

No dyslexia pills required.

As long as there’s something that makes a distinction between the two
That will help to alleviate confusion

 

[ShootingArts]

The slipstroke has it's merits and many of the old time players that didn't use it as their primary stroke practiced it enough to keep it in their bag of tricks. I used to have video of Willie Mosconi practicing that showed him using a slipstroke purely to practice it. In play, it is very useful whenever your stroke is cramped for any reason, balls jammed together or cue ball jammed to the rail are some examples. A top local shortstop noticed me practicing the slipstroke. We started shooting table length cut shots with the cue ball frozen on the head rail. He exclaimed, "You can't miss shooting like this!" A bit of an exaggeration but some indication of how much more natural your arm motion can feel compared to how constrained the shot would feel using a different stroke.

Aside from anything else, the slipstroke is a thing of beauty, an artform. I would hate to see it entirely lost.

Hu

 

[Mensabum]

Me and Jeremy Jones still use it but we both like nappy cloth as well.

Nappy hair.

 

[Mensabum]

Johann Chua uses a slip stroke on longer draw shots. He did a video demonstration several years ago. Ive tried to do it, but not very successfully.

I wouldn't recommend trying to incorporate a slip into your stroke for any reason. I've seen players on both ends of the spectrum try this and they inevitably picked up glitches and bad habits from it that are hard to eliminate once there.
Only extremely skilled players can mess around with this.
You don't need a slip to draw. Just good wrist.

 

[Mensabum]

The slipstroke has it's merits and many of the old time players that didn't use it as their primary stroke practiced it enough to keep it in their bag of tricks. I used to have video of Willie Mosconi practicing that showed him using a slipstroke purely to practice it. In play, it is very useful whenever your stroke is cramped for any reason, balls jammed together or cue ball jammed to the rail are some examples. A top local shortstop noticed me practicing the slipstroke. We started shooting table length cut shots with the cue ball frozen on the head rail. He exclaimed, "You can't miss shooting like this!" A bit of an exaggeration but some indication of how much more natural your arm motion can feel compared to how constrained the shot would feel using a different stroke.

Aside from anything else, the slipstroke is a thing of beauty, an artform. I would hate to see it entirely lost.

Hu

Only for that level player.
Smoother than peanut butter.
It adds another level of complexity to the stroke that most will never need or know how to use.
Credit where credit is due Hu... Yours was like PB&J bro.

 

[joninnorfolk]

Ask Parica!

I was at that US open final and I can still see Jose in my mind mimicking JJ and the towel afterwards.