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I agree with this. I have been buying and selling cues on AZ since 2005. Everyone I have dealt with so far has been completely reliable. No problems at all with Zelle, Paypal, Cashier's checks, etc. As you said, check the person's history and speak with them over the phone.
-dj
A car is a bad example because the purchaser is required to pay sales tax on used cars at time title transfer which is BS anyway because the tax dollars were already collected on that car when it was sold off of the showroom floor. What the government really wants is to dip their hands into your pocket every time money changes hands for any reason.
I would expect an official escrow to be proper. But I want to know what parameters I am responsible for, who is paying for my time which will include comparing the cue to the specs that it was sold under, driving it back to a shipper, what if something happens in shipping between ME and the buyer? What if the seller claims it was straight, and its got a wobble. Now I have to video, send it to the buyer, wait for his answer. "Mint Condition" its a subjective term in cues. What if the finish is great and the bumper shows wear from hitting the floor, technically now its not "mint condition".
Politely put, its a big can of worms and my time could be plus or minus an hour and mileage. If someone was to ask me to do this for them. I ain't doing it for $ 25 dollars, probably not $ 50.
Then factor in that the escrow agent needs to know how to measure things, has the capability to check for straightness, and understand that if the seller says its straight, there is NO wiggle room in your assessment. It is or it isn't. What if I tap it and detect a buzz that wasn't mentioned. The seller now wants me to assume that I put the buzz in with the tap. It wasn't there when he sent it, more like they didn't know or they did and "missed" it.
This might seem nit-picky but after 30's years of selling to people who pull this exact bullsh*t, makes these issues legitimate.
JV
That's it in a nutshell. I know I wouldn't try to do it.
never been a problem if you do your homework
Yeah, too much of the wrong kind of numbers for me. I hate dealing with money. Maybe that's why I'm so good at getting rid of it.
Spending money is way to easy...
JV
Ah...so you know my wife...
Renegade4006
Active member
I've purchased 2 cues from members of this site. Both purchases were made using Paypal G&S. I specifically asked the sellers if they would accept PP G&S with me paying an additional amount to cover the fees. Both transactions went very well.
I am a tech dinosaur so I do not have any other form of online payment nor do I want one. It never hurts to ask a seller if they accept PP G&S. If they do not then I understand. I may miss out on a purchase but that is on me.
I am a tech dinosaur so I do not have any other form of online payment nor do I want one. It never hurts to ask a seller if they accept PP G&S. If they do not then I understand. I may miss out on a purchase but that is on me.
Bought and sold plenty of stuff on AZ without a single problem.
Do your due diligence, deal with known guys, take reasonable precautions and you'll be fine. No different than anywhere else on the interweb.
Lou Figueroa
and if you use friends and family for buying things you are cheating pay pal out of their commissions.
so if you do that and get scammed, the scammer scammed another scammer. and good for what both of you get.
shows some scammers are buyers and some sellers.
so if you do that and get scammed, the scammer scammed another scammer. and good for what both of you get.
shows some scammers are buyers and some sellers.
Paul A. McGuire
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This is absolutely/100% true information. The scammers are so smooth. I'm sure they have "Got-over" on quite a few people & that's a shame. I always tell them, PayPal: Goods & Services or COD (collect on delivery) NOTHING else, period! BEWARE, these people are slick as hell.
Very true Paypal is the only option i prefer to use as a buyer & seller. Even dealers i prefer it i don't like something what ever it is, i want that option to return. I am very picky what i buy and sell here on AZ. My Itrader speaks in volumes!
The brass tax is this when it comes to buying and selling... not all participants are angels. There are bad buyers and there are bad sellers. At the end of the day, it is who is going to be the one willing to leave themselves open to the potential screw over. There is a whole lot of.. "well I do not know the seller so I am going to pay G/S so I am protected". Well maybe the seller is thinking the SAME thing and maybe he is in his right to ALSO want protection. As someone who has been subject to buyers trying to pull moves, it is a two-way street. So buyers don't assume that YOU are the angel in the equation, because there is equally a chance that it will be YOU trying to return something for a bogus reason, that might just be buyers remorse, or your wife saying.. over my dead body are you buying a $ 1500 dollar cue. A seller should NOT have to worry about these "reasons" but they have to because they exist. By you backing out based on any reason but the cue NOT being what was advertised, you are the problem. It is a problem every seller has to, and likely does fear.
The days of a gentleman's agreement and handshake is long over.
JV
The days of a gentleman's agreement and handshake is long over.
JV
Nobody does COD anymore. G&S PP is bar far the best way. I will do F&F if i know the other party real well.
This makes me miss sending a bunch of money PP as a gift to 'ol Deanoc based on nothing but a flowery description and a great story.
Man i miss that guy.
Man i miss that guy.
Have never used paypal other than to buy some ultraskin tips at times. On AZB I have always bought and sold by check, postal mo, or zelle.
Thinking of possibly selling a cue, over 1k, and I'm sure they will probably want to do paypal. How does that work for me the seller? I have an account but never have sold anything with it, just bought.
Do they 1099 the sale?.
Also I have read stories of buyers, after recieving the item/cue, trying to renegotiate the price by threatening to tell paypal the cue wasn't as advertised, knowing that you will incure costs and probably give in to not deal with it. If you have proof of an honest description, how would paypal handle that.
How do you handle that assuming you were honest with your description. I would think a short video or g[d pictures sent and a FaceTime with them should be good.
How do you then get your money, is it transfered to your checking? Is there a waiting period? I wouldn't be in a rush so thst probably wouldn't matter.
I know, a lot of questions, but as a seller and buyer of some things on here, I have been asked to use paypal before and refused, but don't mind if I can figure this all out and I am protected.
Thinking of possibly selling a cue, over 1k, and I'm sure they will probably want to do paypal. How does that work for me the seller? I have an account but never have sold anything with it, just bought.
Do they 1099 the sale?.
Also I have read stories of buyers, after recieving the item/cue, trying to renegotiate the price by threatening to tell paypal the cue wasn't as advertised, knowing that you will incure costs and probably give in to not deal with it. If you have proof of an honest description, how would paypal handle that.
How do you handle that assuming you were honest with your description. I would think a short video or g[d pictures sent and a FaceTime with them should be good.
How do you then get your money, is it transfered to your checking? Is there a waiting period? I wouldn't be in a rush so thst probably wouldn't matter.
I know, a lot of questions, but as a seller and buyer of some things on here, I have been asked to use paypal before and refused, but don't mind if I can figure this all out and I am protected.
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