Buying Cues on this site.

Xdecemberguy said:
Please be careful when buying from this site..everyone I have talked to and I mean everyone want you to use Zelle, Venmo, $CashApp, Apple Pay, US Postal Money Orders. All of which were never formed as a cash for product transaction. These are all to pay friends and close one's you know back. Or payment on site and exchange of product in person. Never trust these payment options. They can and in many case scam you out of your money and their is nothing you can do..
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Jedco said:
Buy the seller, not the cue. Say what you will about these kinds of forums, but I would rather do business here than on any other platform. Here I can look at history, previous posts, and past transactions to get an idea if I'm dealing with an actual person. I've done dozens if not hundreds of online transactions over the years, and I can count on one hand the number of times I've used a form of payment other than PayPal G&S. It's usually not even a discussion, nobody who passes the first sanity check of due diligence asks for anything else.
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I agree with this. I have been buying and selling cues on AZ since 2005. Everyone I have dealt with so far has been completely reliable. No problems at all with Zelle, Paypal, Cashier's checks, etc. As you said, check the person's history and speak with them over the phone.

-dj
 
Frosty said:
Perhaps. Per my accountant, she has already submitted paperwork for the transaction and challenged the IRS on their ability to tax me for selling a simple personal belonging that I already purchased and paid taxes on initially. Look at this way as it’s the example she gave me. If I had a car I no longer wanted and sold it to a private buyer, I’m not obligated to pay taxes on the money I received from that sale. The arm of the IRS is long, but there are limits to what they can tax you on.
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A car is a bad example because the purchaser is required to pay sales tax on used cars at time title transfer which is BS anyway because the tax dollars were already collected on that car when it was sold off of the showroom floor. What the government really wants is to dip their hands into your pocket every time money changes hands for any reason.
 
Chopdoc said:
To be fair he said "official" not "proper", but it's still a good question.
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I would expect an official escrow to be proper. But I want to know what parameters I am responsible for, who is paying for my time which will include comparing the cue to the specs that it was sold under, driving it back to a shipper, what if something happens in shipping between ME and the buyer? What if the seller claims it was straight, and its got a wobble. Now I have to video, send it to the buyer, wait for his answer. "Mint Condition" its a subjective term in cues. What if the finish is great and the bumper shows wear from hitting the floor, technically now its not "mint condition".
Politely put, its a big can of worms and my time could be plus or minus an hour and mileage. If someone was to ask me to do this for them. I ain't doing it for $ 25 dollars, probably not $ 50.
Then factor in that the escrow agent needs to know how to measure things, has the capability to check for straightness, and understand that if the seller says its straight, there is NO wiggle room in your assessment. It is or it isn't. What if I tap it and detect a buzz that wasn't mentioned. The seller now wants me to assume that I put the buzz in with the tap. It wasn't there when he sent it, more like they didn't know or they did and "missed" it.
This might seem nit-picky but after 30's years of selling to people who pull this exact bullsh*t, makes these issues legitimate.

JV
 
I've purchased 2 cues from members of this site. Both purchases were made using Paypal G&S. I specifically asked the sellers if they would accept PP G&S with me paying an additional amount to cover the fees. Both transactions went very well.

I am a tech dinosaur so I do not have any other form of online payment nor do I want one. It never hurts to ask a seller if they accept PP G&S. If they do not then I understand. I may miss out on a purchase but that is on me.
 
Xdecemberguy said:
Please be careful when buying from this site..everyone I have talked to and I mean everyone want you to use Zelle, Venmo, $CashApp, Apple Pay, US Postal Money Orders. All of which were never formed as a cash for product transaction. These are all to pay friends and close one's you know back. Or payment on site and exchange of product in person. Never trust these payment options. They can and in many case scam you out of your money and their is nothing you can do..
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Bought and sold plenty of stuff on AZ without a single problem.

Do your due diligence, deal with known guys, take reasonable precautions and you'll be fine. No different than anywhere else on the interweb.

Lou Figueroa
 
and if you use friends and family for buying things you are cheating pay pal out of their commissions.

so if you do that and get scammed, the scammer scammed another scammer. and good for what both of you get.

shows some scammers are buyers and some sellers.
 
I've only conducted one transaction on this site, used PP G&S and it went very well. Have conducted business on many other sites, almost exclusively using PP, both G&S and F&F. It seems to be the norm, but as mentioned, pay attention to the seller.
 
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