Solid vs layered tips
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So what does it have to do with tips? We are only discussing about preference between a solid tip and a layered one, not about developing a skill because of tips.
I concur.
I got exactly what you were 'trying' to say. You also clearly used the words 'fancy tools' in reference to layered tips which they are clearly not. BTW, its MUSCLE not mussel.
Paul_#_
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Tiger claims it does a lot to its Sniper tip: i) leather tanned the old way---underground; ii) treatment can take a year; iii) vacuum method sucks out air others leave in tip; iv) don't just pressure tip---Advanced Presurized Process it.
All i know is several of us locally swear by it
theres a good reason why cuetec chooses to put them on every cynergy shaft
Brother Ron
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I used solid tips for many years and after coming out of retirement I installed an Ultraskin Ivory layered tip.
By far the best tip I have ever used including the old Champions and others I tried back in the day....
They hold their shape extremely well and mushroom far less than single layered tips.
I have not had any issues with glazing, but I do periodically lightly touch it up with ultra fine emery cloth.
They cost right at 40.00 for 10 of them and I sell a few to my friends so mine are free. : )
By far the best tip I have ever used including the old Champions and others I tried back in the day....
They hold their shape extremely well and mushroom far less than single layered tips.
I have not had any issues with glazing, but I do periodically lightly touch it up with ultra fine emery cloth.
They cost right at 40.00 for 10 of them and I sell a few to my friends so mine are free. : )
I loved the sniper tips on my cynergy shafts until I replaced the super soft ferrules with tomahawk.
The harder ferrule material called for a softer tip and the duds I use are a bit softer.
Ha Ha, I've replaced some of those ferrules for a couple bars that I go to, also some ferrules where the tip had come off a long time ago and they chalked the ferrule enough to shape it like a tip. Funny stuff you come across at times.
I got exactly what you were 'trying' to say. You also clearly used the words 'fancy tools' in reference to layered tips which they are clearly not. BTW, its MUSCLE not mussel.
Well when I am playing well it’s me not my tool. Most top Pros could still play well off the wall.
Where do you buy them?
Sometimes his posts are gold. Growing up in New England and now a Floridian, my mussel memory is very strong. So are my lobster, scallops, cod and salmon memories.BTW, its MUSCLE not mussel.
sudocrushms
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I must have gotten a bad one because the Sniper that came on my SVB Gen1 was the WORST tip i've ever played with. Miscues for days (especially on soft shots), didn't hold chalk, and looked like a portabella after a few sessions.
Just made the switch from Kamui last week. I've been experimenting for the last year or so and had switched to hard (Kamui Clear Black). Was trying a HOW Titan hard on my test shaft and the thing is stupid. Decided to push it and not chalk until I miscued. Must have been 50-60 shots and I gave up. No glazing, still holding chalk. Really like it so far, time will tell. Used Kamui for 15 years.
In the Single v. Layered discussion: Use what you like. I think cost is pretty irrelevant for something you replace MAYBE a couple times a year.
Just made the switch from Kamui last week. I've been experimenting for the last year or so and had switched to hard (Kamui Clear Black). Was trying a HOW Titan hard on my test shaft and the thing is stupid. Decided to push it and not chalk until I miscued. Must have been 50-60 shots and I gave up. No glazing, still holding chalk. Really like it so far, time will tell. Used Kamui for 15 years.
In the Single v. Layered discussion: Use what you like. I think cost is pretty irrelevant for something you replace MAYBE a couple times a year.
Tips are such a massively subjective topic. Its like askin someone what's their fave beer/burger/wine/cigar/pizza/etc. You just have to try a few to find one. I still think the cost/performance of the Ultraskins easily make them one of the best deals in pool. I tried various big-buck tips and none played any better, they just cost more. There is one other tip, the Thoroughbred, that plays nice and at 10bux is also a deal. Their med-hard is a awesome tip.
I swear by the Ultraskin tips although not sure how different the Ivory is. I got 3 varieties of the Ultraskin. Med Fire, Super Soft and Pro. Pro is my favorite although I'm using the Tiger Onyx for awhile since it is installed on the Tiger Fortis Pro. the Tiger Onyx plays close to the Med Fire Ultraskin. great tip but not my favorite.
not sure how different the Sniper is from the Onyx, but when I first broke it in, I was miscuing a lot and couldn't do the same stroke I've been doing with the Ultraskin Pro. I scuffed it meticulously just before playing with it again a few days ago. I rarely miscued and have done several draw shots without a problem but couldn't apply extreme English on it ( the only times it was misfiring). what I noticed that it seems to better with finesse shots.
Up until the 90's, I would have taken a LePro over just about any tip.
Since then they are producing crap.
Since then they are producing crap.
That doesn’t sound too crazy expensive to me.
The golf 'gadget' market is a little over a BILLION a year. Hell if pool made 2% of that it would be colossal. The disposable $$ is out there just have to get cues in their hands.