Vegas

As for places to stay my personal fav is VDara. It's smack dab in the middle of Bellagio, Cosmo and Aria. Each one can be walked to in less than 4 min. But it's non gaming so you can get away from that easily at any time. No restaurants but there's a lobby bar and a convenience store. There's also a Starbucks but it was often closed last time I was there so not sure what's up with that.

You're just so close to everything staying at Vdara and getting to Griff's is a breeze as well maybe 10 min drive if that without even touching the strip which can be a nightmare traffic wise.

If I didn't stay at Vdara I'd stay at Park/NoMad. Non smoking property with several great restaurants under one roof.

Everything is expensive. Yes, many places will be cheaper. Especially downtown but if you're going, do it right.

I also have a soft spot for Venetian/Palazzo as that's where my wife and I got married. Love the property and staff there is generally great.
 
but if you're going, do it right.

At the airport withdraw $100k from a cash machine, then head to the Bellagio hotel. Don't worry about prices, just toss $100 bills everywhere and don't ask for change. When you board your departure flight, if you have any C-notes left, then you should consider it a successful trip.

do's, don'ts,

They used to have a mock sky diving thing you could do. You put on a wing suit, then you entered a wide tube with a jet engine below the chicken wire floor. They would turn on the engine, and you would be lifted by the updraft. The idea was to try to keep your body horizontal to the floor, but the wing suit was so unstable, you would get thrown into the padded walls like a rag doll, then you would drop to the floor like a rock, maybe on your head. The ambulances were parked out back, so they could ferry 1 in 5 customers to the hospital. DON'T DO THAT!
 
At the airport withdraw $100k from a cash machine, then head to the Bellagio hotel. Don't worry about prices, just toss $100 bills everywhere and don't ask for change. When you board your departure flight, if you have any C-notes left, then you should consider it a successful trip.



They used to have a mock sky diving thing you could do. You put on a wing suit, then you entered a wide tube with a jet engine below the chicken wire floor. They would turn on the engine, and you would be lifted by the updraft. The idea was to try to keep your body horizontal to the floor, but the wing suit was so unstable, you would get thrown into the padded walls like a rag doll, then you would drop to the floor like a rock, maybe on your head. The ambulances were parked out back, so they could ferry 1 in 5 customers to the hospital. DON'T DO THAT!

I was thinking I might take a thousand, and hope to come back with a couple of 10's.
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These days your are correct. We went the last 2 years for acs and apa nationals . I used to love Vegas but I don’t need to go back. I know prices are insane everywhere but Vegas is out right stealing from people and I just can’t justify any of it. There is no value for the money that you’re spending. The only good time we had when we were there was Fremont st. That felt like old Vegas. If you haven’t been there for .. .sure . It’s a crazy experience unlike anywhere in the country but I’ve been a dozen or more times and this last time was enough.
 
These days your are correct. We went the last 2 years for acs and apa nationals . I used to love Vegas but I don’t need to go back. I know prices are insane everywhere but Vegas is out right stealing from people and I just can’t justify any of it. There is no value for the money that you’re spending. The only good time we had when we were there was Fremont st. That felt like old Vegas. If you haven’t been there for .. .sure . It’s a crazy experience unlike anywhere in the country but I’ve been a dozen or more times and this last time was enough.
My Wife and Daughter want to go. I could live without it. It will likely be a one and done for me.
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It depends on what you want to get out of your trip. If you are going in the summer, the heat will be limiting. Winter and spring are much better times to go.

If you want to have the "strip experience" then stay on the strip.

If you want to have the Nevada experience, then rent a car and stay at a regular hotel or motel outside of town (like Henderson) and use it as a launching pad to the strip, Red Rock Canyon, Valley of Fire, Mount Charleston, and Boulder Dam.

The best part of my Vegas trips have been side trips to Death Valley, which can be done in one day if you have a lot of energy, and St. George Utah.

Either for Vegas, or surrounding areas, a great source of things to do can be found on the Youtube channel "Wonderhussy". She has many videos on Vegas and surrounding areas and provides an unfiltered and closeup look at it all.
 
I tend to stay downtown anymore. Going to BCA coming up and was too late on the hotel again. I like the D downtown. I stayed in the original rooms at the El Cortez with my wife. Those were pretty cool. Haven’t stayed at their other rooms. I haven’t stayed at some others in a long time and/or ever. But I wouldn’t hesitate to stay at several of the downtown places. The strip has gotten crazy expensive. I think a market adjustment is about to hit, but the value for money isn’t what it used to be. Check out recent reviews of Caesars by way of example. Used to really like it. Anyway downtown isn’t for everybody and I drive down there, so my choices of where to stay don’t depend on proximity to certain things. I like old school Vegas stuff generally as well. I have stayed at locals type places many times that are further out - Santa Fe, Sun coast, Orleans, Sunset Station type places.

I’ve been to both cue club and griff’s. Like both in their way. I want to check out Walt’s, the new place.

So many restaurants as well, and many change, depends what you like and where you are. I haven’t kept up enough on the restaurants.
Boom, you covered it good here. Stay off the Strip. It's a complete and total ripoff.
 
still for someone never there before you need to go and see the casinos on the strip and walk through a few at least.
both day and night. and maybe pick a show or two. especially for your daughter.
and if having extra days which might be a good idea as it is a one time thing tight now do a few of the areas sights like above mentioned.
google things for kids to do in las vegas. as there are enormous amounts of things for kids as well there that you can enjoy too that they will maybe never see the likes of again unless you do lots of traveling.
 
I've been a handful of times. Can't give much more insight than what has already been recommended. I'd take a walk around or through the Venetian. Maybe the ladies would like a ride on the Ferris wheel, or watch the fountain at the Bellagio. I've been to The Sphere a few times and it is fantastic. Here's a pic with U2 on stage and the Ferris wheel in the background. Cirque du Soleil shows are usually good, I've seen a couple.

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For pool, go to Griff's. There is also the Cue Club, which seems to have some action, but it has been a little sketchy/dirty. Bangin Ballz is a new room with Rasson tables, south of the Strip. Walter's Billiards is also new, and has been discussed here. There are several other rooms, maybe including a mostly carom room.

I've heard recommendations for the Mob Museum.

Nature stuff to see in the area: Grand Canyon, Hoover Dam (you walk inside and can look out from half way down the face), Red Rock Canyon, Valley of Fire State Park. For cacti and chocolate together, Ethel M's in Henderson makes fancy chocolates (w/tour) and has a large succulent garden. The M is for Mars.

For accommodation, I was thinking of staying at the (new) Sahara. Their rates looked pretty good, the resort fee is low, and they are at the north end of the monorail. When something was happening at The Rio, I stayed next door at the Gold Coast, where the rates, people and food were much, much better.

I have also stayed at a condo complex in a 3-bedroom suite, a mile or two off the Strip, for about $100/night. Hilton is trying to sell them as time shares or something, but you don't have to attend the "please give us your money" talk. Booking.com lists places like that. I think that will only work if you have a car.

About the strip, it's hard to not feel ripped off at the big casinos, partly due to the fact that there are only three brands. What you can expect:

A "resort fee" of $30 to $50 per day suddenly appears on your room rate when you check in. That's because you might use the wi-fi and towels. The reservation sites sometimes don't happen to tell you about this.

There is no coffee maker in the room. The limited-service Starbucks downstairs will sell you a cup for $5. Or maybe $6 now.

There are no water fountains in the casinos, even though you are in a desert. Bally's is willing to sell you a 10-ounce bottle of water for $8. Really. My briefcase was inspected for water smuggling.

Parking used to be free. Some casinos now charge $20-$25. For a while, you could get free parking at The Tropicana, but they solved that by tearing it down.

The buffets used to be great and not too expensive. I last tried one when I was staying at the Luxor (= Mandalay Bay poor relation) and for $33, there was almost nothing I wanted to eat. In general the casino restaurants will not post the menu outside -- sticker shock problem -- but you can ask to see one.

Once you are on a casino/hotel property, they make it really hard to go elsewhere. You have to walk a long, long way.

I first went to Las Vegas in 1969. Through about 2005 you could get reasonable deals, and then the corporations pushed out the mob (or something like that). These days, they get most of their money from "hospitality" and not innumerate gamblers, so your vacation is not financed by someone else.

One example of how the value has gone away: I complained to Mark Griffin about the costs/values at the Rio, especially for food. $4 for a small, unripe banana at the CSI/BCAPL/USAPL tourney snack area seemed high. He said he had talked to someone in food service there. They were not allowed to spend more than 10% for the ingredients for a meal. The restaurant industry standard has been 30% for ingredients. And that 10-ounce bottle of water mentioned above cost Bally's less than 20 cents.

Be careful in any cash transaction. Sometimes the change may not be quite right. And if you take an actual taxi, know what the charge and route should be or compare to Uber/Lyft.

I just remembered a good deal I encountered at Mandalay Bay at a pool tournament (of course). The beer was cheaper than the bottled water. Water -- $6 for a bottle, Michelob -- $5. 2019? US Open? I try to keep my wits about me when I'm around pool players, but I went for the beer.
"Parking used to be free. Some casinos now charge $20-$25."

I now live about an hour from Vegas so will be driving over for a day during the CSI tournament at the Westgate that starts on Feb 18th. Every other time I've been there I've flown in so not sure where to park since I won't be getting a room. Any tips on that?
 
"Parking used to be free. Some casinos now charge $20-$25."

I now live about an hour from Vegas so will be driving over for a day during the CSI tournament at the Westgate that starts on Feb 18th. Every other time I've been there I've flown in so not sure where to park since I won't be getting a room. Any tips on that?
Last trip there, I had heard that some places would waive the parking fee if you had a Nevada ID.

As I no longer have one of those, I can't confirm.
 
"Parking used to be free. Some casinos now charge $20-$25."

I now live about an hour from Vegas so will be driving over for a day during the CSI tournament at the Westgate that starts on Feb 18th. Every other time I've been there I've flown in so not sure where to park since I won't be getting a room. Any tips on that?
According to an AI-assisted search, parking will be about $11 at the Westgate. I think it will be hard to do better than that. I was thinking the Convention Center might be free but it seems to be $15 and it's a fair walk away.
 
sad to say, Vegas was a lot better, cheaper, more fun when the mob was running it.

say what you want, the boys knew how to entertain folks and run a tight ship
The Rat Pack days, dollar shrimp cocktails, steaks, free drinks when gambling, comped rooms for players at reasonable levels
 
to build a big strip casino costs in the billions of dollars just to build and multi millions each day just to keep open.

freebees are long gone. when going there to the top spots then you have to budget out much more like minimum 100 a day per person just for extras which want to do. to fully enjoy.
 
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